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Mark Myers

11-20-2001 22:03:05




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I have just bought a small tract of land (30 acres) and would like to get an appropriate tractor to work it with (Mowing mostly). I have used "N" series tractors before, and really love them. My question is, did the 8N ever come with a "Live" PTO, or are they all forward motion PTO (cant think of the term right now....it is late!). I am interested in the live pto in order to do post hole digging, and such..... If the "N" series did not, what are the earliest Ford models that did???

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Mark
Texas

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rasputen.....live hydraulics!

11-21-2001 19:12:47




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 Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to Mark Myers, 11-20-2001 22:03:05  
I have an 8N and a 641. The live hydraulics is what makes the big difference for me. Amazing what you can get done with live hyd and 'dead' pto.
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Don

11-21-2001 06:49:45




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 Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to Mark Myers, 11-20-2001 22:03:05  
The Golden Jubilee came out with live hydraulics. I have also read you could get the live PTO as an option on this tractor. I don't think many people ordered them though.



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Steve W......not neccesary!

11-21-2001 05:42:49




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 Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to Mark Myers, 11-20-2001 22:03:05  
I've dug hundred of holes with my 9N in nasty rocky soil. It would be easier with live PTO, but to be honest, it would be better to have live hydraulics.

Take Care
Steve



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Ed Gooding (VA)

11-21-2001 05:29:22




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 Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to Mark Myers, 11-20-2001 22:03:05  
The earliest Ford tractors that came from the factory with live PTO were the "Hundred Series" models from late '55 through '57, specifically the 660 and 860. The 640, 650, and 850 models did NOT have live PTO. Following them, the "01" series from '57 through '62 (661 and 861) would have live PTO. Here's a page from a 1954 ad brochure for the "Hundred Series":

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Hope this helps..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798

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Bob

10-21-2002 06:28:03




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 Re: Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 11-21-2001 05:29:22  
Bought tractor at auction with out emblem on front,think it might possibly be a 661,it has a two stage clutch and 5 speed trans,serial number 30179.Does anyone know if this is correct or is it a diffrent model.Thanks Bob



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Canadianiner

11-21-2001 05:27:11




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 Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to Mark Myers, 11-20-2001 22:03:05  
None of the N series had a live PTO. However I would not call it a forward motion PTO as it works just fine in neutral. The only time that it doesn't work is when the clutch is disengaged. I personally have never used one with a post hole auger but many people on the board have.
Hope that helps.



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T.S.Dye

11-21-2001 08:14:08




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 Re: Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to Canadianiner, 11-21-2001 05:27:11  
Greetings,There was an optional live power clutch available for the 8n. It fit between rear of the trans.and the rearend.It was manually operated, the jubilee was hydra. operated. It gave you AC version of live power. They are very rare and would make an 8n more handy.



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you know . . . Dell (WA)

11-21-2001 09:40:59




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to T.S.Dye, 11-21-2001 08:14:08  
Mr. Dye..... .This is the first time in over 5 years participating on this great N-Board that I am aware of anyone ever claiming that there was a "live PTO" clutch for the 8N. As you know, everytime you step on the clutch pedal, the PTO must stop turning because the tranny stops turning and the hydraulic pump stops pumping too.

A person would have to be very clever to put somesort of clutch/coupler extention between the tranny output shaft and the differential drive pinion. And remember which clutch pedal to push.

Myself, if'n I just had to have "live PTO", I'd probably buy a later model tractor with all the bells and whistles. Including power steering, live hydraulics, frontend loader, shuttle shift, crawler gear for rototiller, FWD, supersteer, economical 35hp diesel power, blue paint..... uh-uh..... sounds like a "Boomer" to me..... ....respectfully, Dell,

Who believes in Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Great Pumpkin, Tommy Knockers, Leprechauns, Trolls, Elves, Werewolves, BUT NOT live PTO's for 8N's

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Bob

11-21-2001 19:54:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to you know . . . Dell (WA), 11-21-2001 09:40:59  
Dell, you may think you do, but you don't know everything about 8N's.



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Tractor Rod

11-21-2001 17:05:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N and Live PTO in reply to you know . . . Dell (WA), 11-21-2001 09:40:59  
Dell I have a 8N with live power. It was built by Sherman. I have talked about it on this board before. It is very similiar to the NAA set up except it is manually applied if you would like some more information let me know. Tractor Rod



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