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2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse

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David

09-09-2001 18:14:54




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I have an infrequent clutch problem with my 2N. 4 times in the past 2 years the clutch didn't release when I stepped on the clutch pedal. Every time this happened I was backing up the tractor into the shed. This has never happened with the tractor is neutral or a forward gear. Any idea what the problem might be?




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ZANE

09-09-2001 18:24:11




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 Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to David, 09-09-2001 18:14:54  
Sometimes on the N tractor and also on other tractors etc. the clutch will momentarily stick when there is an oily film on the clutch components. This however happens going forward and backwards and will release after traveling a few feet or far enough to really get your attention if there is a cliff etc. in front on you.

A new clutch disc and cleaning up everything in the clutch housing will usually cure it. It really won't do any harm unless you back out the rear of the shed etc.

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Dale Moondog Robichaux

09-10-2001 11:59:17




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 Re: Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to ZANE, 09-09-2001 18:24:11  
If it's a true 2-N it is well over 50 years old. wear in the spline shaft, oily guck on the clutch plate and possible wear in the trans mission causing too much shaft end "play" could cause your problem. Many 9-n's have 2n rear axle housings called "Trumpet housing" and some people have mistaken a 9-N for 2-n's. If you have a magneto, no starter and no battery with steel Wheels then you have a true 2-n. 2-N's are hand cranked.

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David

09-10-2001 05:17:12




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 Re: Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to ZANE, 09-09-2001 18:24:11  
Zane,

Thanks for the suggestions. I think you are right on, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to split the tractor. As for doing harm, the first time it happened I was totally surprised and DID demolish the back wall of the shed.

David



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Dave Smith, What

09-09-2001 18:23:39




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 Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to David, 09-09-2001 18:14:54  
What do you mean? Does the tractor stop and you can't get out of gear or does the tractor keep moving?
Dave <*)))><



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David

09-10-2001 05:11:40




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 Re: Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to Dave Smith, What, 09-09-2001 18:23:39  
Dave,

When I step on the clutch the tractor keeps moving and the only way to stop it is to turn the key and kill the engine.

David



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Dave Smith

09-10-2001 05:36:11




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to David, 09-10-2001 05:11:40  
Sounds like you will have to break it and go in and check the clutch disk. Probably what Zane said is happening and you might have to replace the crank seals also. Ford did not put a clutch inspection window on the tractors like he did on the cars. You can remove the stearing sector box and look in there but will probably have to break it anyways. On the cars you could remove the inspection cover and with the clutch released spray it with carbon tet and that would buy you some time. But eventually it had to be done right.Also carbon tet is dangerous stuff to mess with ( I understand it eats the white blood sells). We didn't know that back then. Be safe. Dave <*)))><

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David

09-10-2001 06:09:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to Dave Smith, 09-10-2001 05:36:11  
Dave,

Thanks, especially for the advice to fix what is likely the real source of the problem, a leaking oil seal.

David



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David

09-10-2001 06:07:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to Dave Smith, 09-10-2001 05:36:11  
Dave,

Thanks, especially for the advice to fix what is likely the real source of the problem, a leaking oil seal.

David



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Jim(FL)

09-10-2001 10:06:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2N clutch doesn't always release when tractor is in reverse in reply to David, 09-10-2001 06:07:42  
David, it is possible to have two sources of oil/fluid to look for. As mentioned already the rear crank seal and the second is the tranny input shaft seal. If the tranny seal is leaking, the tube housing the input shaft will direct those leaks DIRECTLY on the clutch surfaces. The crank rear oil seal leak will have to be thrown around by the flywheel and drip or run onto the clutch surfaces. Advice - look at both possiblities.
Good Luck, Jim

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