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G1350 vs 1355

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sodbanger

01-30-2008 14:53:24




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I have located a G1350 Diesel I would consider buying. What is the major diff between the 50 and 55 ? were the 1350's pretty good tractors ? Thank you for any replies




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Luke Miller

01-31-2008 16:02:12




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to sodbanger, 01-30-2008 14:53:24  
Why did Moline say their three point was "computer controlled"? I have seen this several times in literature but never understood it.



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Alan K

01-31-2008 20:38:24




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to Luke Miller, 01-31-2008 16:02:12  
I always wondered that too. Ahead of their time, right? Nowdays people want the computers out of tractors and cars. My brother was a mechanic and always said you hook up a computer to your cars computer and it will tell what is wrong with it, but what if the computer in the car is broke and cant tell you what is wrong...then what?



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freddy

01-31-2008 16:08:24




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to Luke Miller, 01-31-2008 16:02:12  
The origin's of computers were first mechanical. Remember the Enigma machine! Later they were configured to electronics. A machine that can take mechanical or electrical inputs and give a engineered predetermined output is a computer.



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sodbanger

01-31-2008 14:16:22




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to sodbanger, 01-30-2008 14:53:24  
Thanks ! It sounds like you guys like the 1350 so I will take ashot at it !



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freddy

01-31-2008 09:49:43




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to sodbanger, 01-30-2008 14:53:24  
The biggest advantage the 1355 has over the 1350 is the transmission. A 18 speed over the 10 speed. The collar shifting oliver trans is not as a forgiving design as the MM sliding gear. The operators manuals for the 1350 does state it could of come with a power shift 3 speed too, but I was told years ago no one ordered any. There probably was some truth in that. Who knows? talking with a few people from Charles City a supposed manufacturing error caused a lot of oil shafts to break on the 585 engines. Death to the engine was shortly followed. We have a 1350 with a internal oil pump. One must never exceed the manufactures oil pressure setting. Excessive wear on all part rapidly follows. You can't force an engine to take oil. The engine design itself regulates how much oil flows thru it. The pump only supplies head pressure when it comes to the bearings.

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James22

01-31-2008 18:14:12




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to freddy, 01-31-2008 09:49:43  
I never actually viewed but have seen a 950 tractor advertised with the 3sp ampli-torque. It shows the optional 3 spd in the 950-1050 operators manuals, but I thought they didn't offer it in the 1350. Would love to have it for the extra gears, but have heard repair parts are almost impossible to find.



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freddy

01-31-2008 20:40:03




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to James22, 01-31-2008 18:14:12  
I have heard the same about part for the 3 speed. We have two LP'S with 3 speeds a G950 and a G1050. Both are low hour machines, but some day we will need parts. There is some talk if the 3 speed was ever even tested in a 1350. I have an old picture of a 1350 with a 504lp in it that looks like it has a 3 speed in it. The M-LINE 70 brochure only lists the 2 speed ampli-torque, but the picture shows the tractor with a 3 speed. Althought the operations manual S-573 dated 4/70 describes transmission maintenance as "If the tractor is equiped with the 3 speed Ampi-Torque" implying it was used. The 1050 manual S-574 has the same pictures and procedures. Brochures have never been that accurate. 1350 and A4t's have HD800 with the correct serial prefixes in them. They are not listed in the brochures! The common denominator seems is if you asked MM for one they would of made you one. MM was a Great Company

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BMG1

02-01-2008 13:59:33




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to freddy, 01-31-2008 20:40:03  
Freddy,
Moline did build a 1350D 3 spd from the factory. Whoever has it now is quite lucky.



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freddy

02-01-2008 22:14:16




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to BMG1, 02-01-2008 13:59:33  
Thanks for the info. I will save it with the rest I am collecting. Someday there will be no one to ask.



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JW/NEOKLA

01-31-2008 07:08:42




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to sodbanger, 01-30-2008 14:53:24  
I never had a 1355 but I had owned an lp 955 for several years and really liked the Oliver rear end because of the 3 speed hydraulic shift. It was great for field work, large round baling and pulling a shredder. I now have a 670 Super which I really like but I wish it had the 3 speed shift instead of the Ampli-torque.



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schrocky

01-30-2008 18:50:44




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to sodbanger, 01-30-2008 14:53:24  
I would like some insight into this too, I know they say 1350 is all MM but the 3 pt. , pto and final drives on my 1350 look like Oliver to me ??? would somebody explain more please.



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freddy

01-31-2008 09:30:42




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to schrocky, 01-30-2008 18:50:44  
The 1350 has a heavier rear end then the 1355. Not as much warrantee work. Here in Kansas a lot of people over loaded the MM's in the field. The 1350 was before the 1355 so in a matter of speaking the 1355 has 1350 final drives. The 2255 oliver had the same final drives. It was away of boosting power thru the transmission and rear end by increasing the speed and lowering the torque which can make a smaller rear end do a bigger job. The final drives do not drop the speed as much as most people think, but enough to get the field speeds back to where the were designed. Oliver pto's are nothing like a MM's. Oliver's are hydraulicly activated MM's are manual. One of the weakest points on a 1355 was the pto. Same goes for a 2-150. The G955 did not have that much trouble. Maybe because it was not as powerful a tractor. My local salvage yard just got a 2-150 in and the pto is already gone. The mm pto's couldn't be simpler or there brakes for that matter. As for the 3 point hitch there is similarities with the external cylinders, but that is about all. Check how the control are and the hydralic remote set up. MM wanted to incorporate there computer controlled bottom and top sensing 3 point to the new 50 series tractor and also simplify manufacturing. The steering and the 3 point was a targeted item. Less castings and more fabrication.

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MMDEL

01-30-2008 15:31:43




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 Re: G1350 vs 1355 in reply to sodbanger, 01-30-2008 14:53:24  
A 1350 is all MM
A1355 is a half breed. Front half MM. Rear half Oliver



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