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Tractors equipped with propane, more dangerous?

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Buckeye Oliver

03-02-2007 20:37:45




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Heres one for the Moline collectors. I was talking with my brother a while back about tractor fuels, and he thought running propane was much more dangerous than "regular" (diesel or gas). I didn"t really think much about it, figured that there could be problems with the tractor regardless of the fuel type. With that said I"ve been around tractors for nearly 20 years (only gas and diesel) and I haven"t heard of something going wrong often, unless they are involved in modified tractor classes at pulls.
I do know propane was/is much more efficient costwise but thats about all I know of it I"m afraid. About the best place to ask I thought since alot of Molines were/are on propane.

Your thoughts?

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Harrold Rhodes

03-03-2007 09:01:10




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 Re: Tractors equipped with propane, more dangerous in reply to Buckeye Oliver collector, 03-02-2007 20:37:45  
If you understand propane and follow the proper procedure I think propane is safer than gasoline. During the 50's, 60's and 70's when I was an MM dealer I sold more propane tractors than diesel and no gasoline. Of course location and size of operation played a big part in that. Now here we use diesel 100% for farming. Some gasoline is used on very small week end operations and very little propane. When I first started farming I paid .05 cents per gallon for propane, gasoline for farm use was around 10 cents. Things sure have changed in 60 years and I'v been against every one of them.

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Glen in TX

03-03-2007 07:35:29




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 Re: Tractors equipped with propane, more dangerous in reply to Buckeye Oliver collector, 03-02-2007 20:37:45  
Not understanding how LPG fuels act or the LPG systems and long overdue maintainance of the system is what can make them dangerous. Ignorance of the operator during refueling and poor maintainance is asking for trouble with a LPG or gasoline system. Most operators manuals for LPG tractors had a good section in them to read on safety around LPG fuels. A gasoline sytem is not safe if no maintainance is done as a line could fail and crack and shoot fuel all over a hot engine too yet we restore many of these 50+ year old tractors with the same metal fuel lines at times. Accident waiting to happen? Same goes on LP systems replace the fuel lines, hoses, valves or packings, relief valves and check for leaks. Don't expect it to be safe if no prevenatative maintainance was done. LPG and natural gas are a dryer fuel and after sitting a while the gaskets, diaphrams and or packings of valves and vaporizer/regulators can dry out and crack and fail. When everything is maintained and new and kept up right they are very safe and reliable systems. Not sure right now where to point you to a best publication on LPG safety and operation but know some of the JD LPG operators supplement manuals I've had and the SM2015 LPG Systems service manual had very good information on understanding how the sytems works and how to maintain them safely. Be aware new regulations and ways of doing things have come in to place since those were published also! Too much ignorance of the fuel and systems last few years have brought on more needless regulations and laws mostly because of others ignorance not the real issue of if the fuel is safe. Gasoline and LPG fuels and any petroleum products are FLAMMABLE so that tells you most of what need to know right there! JD publications 800-522-7448 or Ed at 812-537-4622 may have the SM2015 LPG manual available that relates to tractor LPG systems. Also contact your local LPG dealer for other safety issues and publications. Online searches can also give sources of publications. Be aware that regulations have probably changed in your area or state since some of those were wrote so always check local regulations again to be safe.

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Yugrotcart

03-03-2007 06:10:56




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 Re: Tractors equipped with propane, more dangerous in reply to Buckeye Oliver collector, 03-02-2007 20:37:45  
Some propane tractors wil "leak" propane. They shouldn't, but due to lack of maintenance they do. Pull that leaky tractor into a shop, close the door, now yur lookin for trouble.

Paul



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Buckeye Oliver collector

03-03-2007 14:08:06




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 Re: Tractors equipped with propane, more dangerous in reply to Yugrotcart, 03-03-2007 06:10:56  
Thanks for the comments guys. I was thinking about the same thing. Maitenance is key on about everything really.



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