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conversion of LP to gas question

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Jrry

01-24-2006 06:12:12




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I have been wanting a MM 335 or 445 for a while because I like the styling and the HP is about right for what I need. I don't see many for sale around here but did find one about 250 miles away that is an LP version. I don't have access to LP and am thinkin gof purchasing and converting to gas. The tractor is priced as a parts tractor and is missing the carb anyway. My question is the carb and manifold easily available and can the LP tank be converted to hold gas. I would prefer to find one already in good condition but havn't found one. Should I preceed with this tractor or continue to look for one like I want? thanks, Jerry

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Doug Zimmerman

01-25-2006 18:12:30




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Jrry, 01-24-2006 06:12:12  
I bought a MM UTU propane about 8 years ago. We converted it to gas but kept the propane tank and the sheet metal. It was fairly easy.

We kept the existing tank for looks, and so we wouldn't have to change sheet metal. We removed the tank, removed all the plugs, washed it out with hot water and soap about 4 times. Put an air hose in it and dried it out for about a half hour. Then with the air running, we cut a hole in the top and welded in a 2" pipe nipple for a gas fill spout. I plugged all the propane fittings in the tank with pipe plugs. On the bottom of the tank we drilled it and brazed in a 1/8 pipe fitting to hose barb. We purchased a carburator and found that it would mount to the existing manifold if we used 1/4 bolts instead of 5/16. We had to drill the carb and the manifold out by about 20 thousanths and the bolts are kind of kinked in at an angle, but it holds tight and has run for 8 years. The other problem which we discovered was the lack of carb heat. So we added warm air induction to the manifold. We kept the original air cleaner and precleaner, but under the hood drilled a 2" hole horizontally into the air cleaner and put a duct over on top of the manifold. We then stuffed rags in the top of the precleaner so it draws air from around the manifold. You might not want to do this if you work your tractors in dusty conditions that need the precleaner but it has worked fine for us.

One drawback to how we did it is that with the 33 gallon propane tank, there is probably 4 gallons of gas in the bottom below the level of the carburator. Using the old manifold we are probably loosing some power, but for what we use these tractors for it isn't a big deal.

Hope this helps.

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ILL John

01-24-2006 11:15:55




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Jrry, 01-24-2006 06:12:12  
Kevin, I'll go with you to get it, in case you don't want it, Jerry, I've got a Brown Jetstar on gasoline, that I would consider trading. John



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Jrry

01-24-2006 11:22:32




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to ILL John, 01-24-2006 11:15:55  
John, talk to me. You have any pictures, discription. What model Jetstar, wide front?
thanks, Jerry



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Kevin Moschenrose

01-24-2006 21:51:29




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Jrry, 01-24-2006 11:22:32  
Jerry, All jetstar, jetstar two, and big mo 400 are all wide fronts. Just in case you go with a different model.



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Captainhookerus

01-24-2006 07:17:04




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Jrry, 01-24-2006 06:12:12  
Which model is it and is it a utility or row crop?



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Jrry

01-24-2006 07:32:30




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Captainhookerus, 01-24-2006 07:17:04  
It is the 445 and is the utility model. Are parts hard to come by on this model?
thanks, Jerry



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Captainhookerus

01-24-2006 11:16:53




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Jrry, 01-24-2006 07:32:30  
I thought you might have found 335 lp universal or row crop.



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Kevin Moschenrose

01-24-2006 06:59:35




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Jrry, 01-24-2006 06:12:12  
Jerry, what part of the country do you live in and what kind of price they want on the tractor. Another sister tractor to the 445 is the jetstar and big mo 400 or even a 4 star. Plus it is tricky to have a hole cut into a propane tank to make a gas tank out of it. And also the engine may ping fron the lp heads running on the gas instead of lp. LP is how ever cheaper right now and not all that hard to come up with either.

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DFZ

01-25-2006 18:16:51




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Kevin Moschenrose, 01-24-2006 06:59:35  
My utu has never had a problem running gas on the propane heads. Never pings, just roars!



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Jrry

01-24-2006 07:14:02




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Kevin Moschenrose, 01-24-2006 06:59:35  
Kevin, I live in central Mississippi. The guy is asking $350 for the tractor and the engine is not stuck. It also has the wide front. Yea, I would be concerned about working on the LP tank. I could put a regular gas tank on but then the sheet metal would probably be wrong and the brackets would have to be changed to hold the gas tank. I would probably be interested in any of the molines with the apparence of the 445 if I could find one nearby and reasonable in price. I'm not very famalier with the Molines but have heard they were good machines. thanks, Jerry

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Kevin Moschenrose

01-24-2006 08:58:21




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 Re: conversion of LP to gas question in reply to Jrry, 01-24-2006 07:14:02  
That is cheap enough I think I would get it and use it for trading material. I can give you a name of a guy down there in Mississippi that deals in MM tractors. But you need to email me for that info. Heck if you don't want it I would take it.



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