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mojeff2002

08-30-2005 13:36:56




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I'm working on one of my Dad's Uni tractors, and apparently the oil pump is not working. Is there any way to check the oil pump operation from the underside access panel, rather than pulling the engine to get to the backside cover? It's got a combine mounted on it, and the hoist is long gone.

What's a setup like this worth, anyway? Dad always said it did the best combining job of any machine he ever had.

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unifan

08-31-2005 20:49:16




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 Re: Uni V-4 info in reply to mojeff2002, 08-30-2005 13:36:56  
Okay, I took it apart, got the (brittle) pulley off the backside, and cover. Immediately I saw that the pressure side of the pump had blown the rubber O-ring, so no wonder. My dad said the last time he drove it, it took a long time to build pressure, and that explains it. Apparently someone had it apart before, and didn't get the oil pump & O-rings seated as far on the tubes as it should have been.

I might take the bottom cover off the pan just to check the pickup, even though I didn't see much sludge in the timing gear area. I know the gauge was bad because it was stuck on 45 psi for 14 years. I put a new one on it, and should have it running tomorrow. Took a while to make a new gasket for the cover...what a monster!

Pretty ingenious oil pump though.

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Kelvin

08-30-2005 19:18:22




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 Re: Uni V-4 info in reply to mojeff2002, 08-30-2005 13:36:56  
I'd try a different gauge first. The pressure gauge on mine Tees into the oil line to the governor. About the only thing you can check through the bottom cover is the oil pickup. (It might be plugged. The one I worked on had 1" of sludge in there. I mean an almost solid greasy layer of stuff.) Mine was a late V-4 and had a 'floating' pickup like the 445 used. The early ones might have a screen pickup like a Z used.

The oil pump is made like an old automatic transmission pump and it is mounted on the crankshaft. It actually slides on the crankshaft and is clamped in place on the crankshaft with a ring that has 3 setscrews in it. (Its supposed to have about .010 clearance between it and the crankcase.) That ring is very hard and brittle and can break easily. It is under the long cover on the equipment pto side of the engine, so to get at it you have to get the flat pulley off, and remove the cover. (Those flat pulleys can break easily too.) The pump gets its oil through a tube from the pickup that seals to the pump with a metal sleeve that has a rubber seal in it. Those metal sleeves are held in place with a springs.

If its not pumping and the problem is not the pickup, or an obvious problem with the pump itself, chances are its sucking air where the intake seals to the tube. My thinking is if the seal leaks on the pressure side a little, it probably won't miss the oil much, but if it leaks on the intake it can draw air into the pump instead of oil.

They're kinda neat motors, tough to haul though.
God Bless!
Kelvin

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ROWDY

08-30-2005 17:50:25




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 Re: Uni V-4 info in reply to mojeff2002, 08-30-2005 13:36:56  
Have you ever installed an aftermarket oil presure gauge on it? How and why have you determened its bad?



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