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farm boy2

08-21-2005 16:21:11




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are any of the moline combine motors interchangeable with a zb




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Alan K

08-21-2005 19:22:44




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 Re: combine motors in reply to farm boy2, 08-21-2005 16:21:11  
Yes the later G4 combines used the "ZA" engine. Some G4's have the Z or ZT engine in them which were 4 1/2" stroke instead of the 5" like the ZA's were. As far as I know the ZA and ZB engines are the same.



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Harrold Rhodes

08-21-2005 16:52:55




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 Re: combine motors in reply to farm boy2, 08-21-2005 16:21:11  
The old drag type combines G 1,2,3,4, used the 165 EE engines which were the same design as the engine in the ZB but it was 206 inches. The over head valve engine that came in the 445 could probably easily be adapted to the ZB



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freddy

08-22-2005 15:29:06




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 Re: combine motors in reply to Harrold Rhodes, 08-21-2005 16:52:55  
actually the combines used a 186 cubic inch engine.

they made 3 different stroke engines in the side valve engine



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Harrold Rhodes

08-21-2005 16:50:46




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 Re: combine motors in reply to farm boy2, 08-21-2005 16:21:11  
The old drag type combines G 1,2,3,4, used the 165 EE engines which were the same design as the engine in the ZB but it eas 206 inches. The over head valve engine that came in the 445 could probably easily be adapted to the ZB



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Kelvin

08-21-2005 17:46:14




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 Re: combine motors in reply to Harrold Rhodes, 08-21-2005 16:50:46  
The big issue with the later 206 engines is the water inlet on the water pump is on the opposite side of the engine than the ZB. the ZB radiator has a cast iron lower tank,with no provision for getting the water out the other side of the tank.
You will also have to work out the starter/flywheel/clutch issue too.

You might be able to use the ZB flywheel/starter/clutch IF the distance between the crankshaft center and the centerline of the starter pinion is the same between blocks.

You might be able to use a 445 flywheel and starter, and clutch, but you would have to have a spacer made that would fit a ZB pilot bushing in the 445 flywheel.

I don't know which would be easier and there might be another possibility I have not considered.

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Kelvin

08-21-2005 17:48:16




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 Re: combine motors in reply to Kelvin, 08-21-2005 17:46:14  
What i meant was on the second possibility, you might use the 445 clutch pressure plate with the ZB clutch disk.



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