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wcs

04-27-2005 18:16:41

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I was wondering if there was something besides sodium cloride you could use in rear tractor tires for weight. I have a tractor that is a little light but I hate to use sodium.If it ever leaks it will eat a rim up. I need something that wont freeze. thanks Chris

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Dave 2N

04-29-2005 05:31:01

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to wcs, 04-27-2005 18:16:41

We've gone to winter windshield washer fluid. Get it at WAL-Mart.

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Oklahomatractorrebuilder

04-29-2005 04:35:46

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to wcs, 04-27-2005 18:16:41

Everyone around here uses racing alcohol. runs about 2.15 a gallon and only takes 7 gallon in a 18.4 X 30 tire to keep it from freezing. Does not cause rust and is safe for the enviroment.

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Kurt Smit

04-28-2005 21:01:12

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to wcs, 04-27-2005 18:16:41

Beet juice! It has about the same weight as CaCl doesn't freeze and won't corrode the rims if it leaks. They grow alot of beets in the thumb of MI and are now using it in tractor tires. I guess it really works well. Kurt

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Ks-farmer

04-28-2005 19:57:31

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to wcs, 04-27-2005 18:16:41

Why not use cast iron wheel weights? You don't have to worry about them freezing! I have quite a few that I would sell for little more than salvage price.

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Joe MN

04-29-2005 13:55:27

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to Ks-farmer, 04-28-2005 19:57:31

I'd be interested in a wheel weight for a IH240, do you think you have any ?? the weight is about 17 inches across, and has 4 bolt holes, from bolt to bolt measures 9 & 3/4 inches and the weight is about 3 inches thick, there is a number on the weight if that will help, # 351374-R1 email me at [email protected] thanks for your time...

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Ks-farmer

04-30-2005 19:47:28

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to Joe MN, 04-29-2005 13:55:27

I don't have any for a IHC that I know of but do have sever 4 bolt hole weights. I'll email you tomarrow morning w/dimensions.

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wcs

04-28-2005 19:10:19

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to wcs, 04-27-2005 18:16:41

I am sorry, I did mean to say calicium not sodium choloride. How much antifreeze would you think I would need to put in a 14-9-28 to keep it from freezing? We normally dont have extremly cold weather here in central Ky, but every now and then it will get down to 0. I was told that a 14-9-28 would hold 55 gallons, as high as antifreeze is it might be cheeper to buy a heavier tractor. Thanks for your advice, Chris

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720Deere

04-28-2005 19:32:11

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to wcs, 04-28-2005 19:10:19

Antifreeze is expensive, but there are cheap sources. If you decide to go that way, check in with a local trucking or construction company. They have hundreds of gallons of waste antifreeze that they are paying to dispose of every year. Quite a few farmers have gotten barrels of waste antifreeze from the company where I work. They will be glad to dispose of 100 gallons at no cost to them.

Water/antifreeze mixtures weigh on average around 8.75 pounds/gallon. CaCl solutions can weigh as much as 20 lbs/gallon. Unless you are looking to seriously overballast your tractor, any alcohol antifreeze mixed with water will give you plenty of weight.

For freeze protection in a tire, you could get away with substantially less than a 50/50 mix on the antifreeze. 50/50 usually gets you down to -40 degrees and you're surely not going to see those temps with your tractor. Check an antifreeze jug for the chart. You probably only need something like 30% antifreeze to get you down to 0 degrees.

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Texas Denny

04-27-2005 20:30:57

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to wcs, 04-27-2005 18:16:41

WCS, I've never heard of anyone using sodium chloride. It is calcium chloride. Calcium chloride is much less corrosive than sodium chloride. Studies have shown it to corrode at a slower rate than pure water. I find that hard to believe but it is what the study showed. Of course, pure water will also rot out a rim. It won't do harm quickly. Rims are rotted out by the slow leak that keeps it wet. The major advantage of calcium chloride is that a saturated solution of calcium chloride and water will weigh nearly three times the weight of the same volume of water. It is like putting three tires filled with water on each side (less the weight of tire and wheel of course).

Here in Texas, I haven't found anyone that does it. The plan down here is two gallons of antifreeze with water for each tire. The antifreeze provides corrosion protection and freeze protection. In the midwest, you'd need more antifreeze in the brew.

The idea presented by old to use windshield washer fluid sounds pretty good, too.

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old

04-27-2005 19:58:18

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Re: fluid for rear tires in reply to wcs, 04-27-2005 18:16:41

I use windshield wiper fluid in my tires, cost a little more then the cal. but it doesn't eat the rims if you have a leak. Last one I did cost me around $35-40, I fill them myself. If you want if on how to do it your self drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a page from a 1935 JD owner manual that tell you how

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