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$180,000 UDLX (Wow)

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MMatt

03-03-2005 14:36:20




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Well here we go! The UDLX is making (or trying) to make another price jump. I wonder if in a couple of decades, a UDLX will hit the $1 Million mark?




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The Dukester

03-11-2005 08:18:48




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to MMatt, 03-03-2005 14:36:20  
I used to wonder about Ford Cobras when some of them went for over a million...It was unreal I guess you'ld say. Well, so what really, I couldn't ever afford one anyway, even before the price went up...or at least I sure didn't think so. A house I bought in Silicon Valley for 18,500 bucks in the early '60's is worth a half a million now..... but now I don't own it, I sold it for a fraction of that in the '70's and bought property here in Michigan I lost money on. All you can do is take a chance and speculate...or be glad you didn't sometimes. Consider, they ain't making land anymore or at least not much of it....neither are they making UDLX's. Why do we pay so much for a little (or not so little) finger ring stone called a diamond....what can you really do with it.... stare at it's reflections and then scratch window panes??. Sane people still do insane things.

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Brian Rukes, The M-M Regi

03-07-2005 19:09:49




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to MMatt, 03-03-2005 14:36:20  
Hello all,

I have been following the responses to this initial post with much interest. I would myself like to make a few observations that I hope will help answer some questions and concerns that many seem to have about this and related subjects.

I am one of those younger enthusiasts, having been quite active in this hobby in a variety of capacities for over a dozen years. I got into the hobby thanks to my dad, who was a mechanic at tractor dealers around the early 1970s. Dad started collecting antique tractors when I was about 13 years old, and I quickly became interested in them, too. Now, I am 26 years old, and I still enjoy the hobby greatly, and I hope to be involved with it for the rest of my life, Lord willing.

When I was first getting into the hobby, I must admit that I was initially alarmed by the seeming lack of young interest in it. I was considered "weird" by many of my peers for liking old tractors and their history. To some, I still am considered weird. But, quite frankly, their opinions don"t upset me, largely because I simply realize that they don"t know or understand what they are missing. To me, the most valuable part of the tractor hobby is not the tractors, but the people who are involved in it. The relationships I have gained--with folks in the 90s all the way down to those in their early teens--have been precious to me. And those enthusiasts who are older than me, and who thus personally lived this history that I enjoy researching so much, have my utmost respect and admiration. I love hearing the old stories told just like they were yesterday. And I"ve tried to share that joy I have with others, by sharing those stories with others through my books. And I just hope it"s made a difference and helped to preserve those precious pieces of our history that otherwise wouldn"t last as long as the machines themselves will.

Fortunately, as time as gone by, I"ve come to realize that I"m not so much an odd duck in being young and liking old tractors. I have lots of friends who are around my age who are very active in the hobby, and some in ways that I"m not so active. As much as I love the hobby, I only own two tractors, and neither of them run. I do like getting my hands greasy and working on old tractors, but I don"t have the facilities to do that where I live. And that"s okay. I take what God has graciously given to me, and I"m thankful. Besides, life is about far more than material things, even tractors.

Just like the body of Christ, I believe that every person who is a part of the tractor collecting community serves as important role, whether young, older, or middle-aged; whether rich, poor, or with a "middle-income"; whether they have one tractor, a few, many, hundreds, or, yes, even none; whether a mechanic, a tractor puller, a researcher, or anything else. For any group or person to belittle others just because they aren"t exactly like oneself is careless, unproductive, and even hateful. We may not always understand each other, but I believe that we should always try, and we should always respect each other despite what differences we have. Remember that we all have at least one thing in common--we like old tractors. And I am confident that we have much more than that in common, too.

Now, as some have said, the UDLX in question is being advertised with an asking price of $180,000. Whether someone wants to pay that much for one is their own business, and I am not going to call anyone crazy--whether the buyer or the seller. It"s their money, and they can do as they please. As for me, I wouldn"t have paid $45,000 seven years ago for a UDLX even if I had that kind of money. I don"t need one; it"s as simple as that. And I somehow doubt that anyone out there really needs a UDLX nowadays. People are paying what they are paying for them simply because they want one, or at least that"s the way I see it.

One thing I think is interesting that no one has brought up is, if you"re going to have a tractor, you need to have one that YOU like and enjoy and get some sort of benefit from. I was fortunate enough to get the drive the UDLX that is on the cover of my _Illustrated Buyer"s Guide: Minneapolis-Moline Tractors_. And, as much as I appreciated the opportunity and the experience, I decided that a UDLX was definitely not for me. Let"s just say that they were not designed for someone who"s about 6"3" tall...

Finally, as to the asking price of UDLXs, I don"t know what will happen. If they break $1,000,000.00, though, I will be somewhat surprised. I was only slightly surprised when they started bringing over $100,000, and I won"t be too surprised if they bring much more than that.

And, just to clear the air on UDLX prices now vs. when they were new, UDLXs were bringing over $2,100 when new, which was VERY pricey for a tractor in the late 1930s. But at about that same time, a regular UTU on rubber was bringing just over $1,300. BTW, the UOPN Open Roadster was bringing over $1,700. So, the $180,000 is about 80 times more than when new (using the exact figures). But remember the tractor hasn"t sold for that price yet, so far as I am aware. And, no, the $180,000 wouldn"t have been equal to (or more than) MM"s total receipts for all the Comfortractors, assuming they all sold for list price.

I hope I haven"t stepped on anyone"s toes here. I wasn"t out to offend anyone or to "point fingers"; on the contrary, I was simply hoping to help calm the situation and put some people"s minds at ease on a couple of issues.

Take care, have a good one, and here"s wishing you all tbe best.

Respectfully,

Brian Rukes

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Tucker

03-04-2005 08:13:55




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to MMatt, 03-03-2005 14:36:20  
I too am a "young gun"-16. Im a 3rd generation MM collector, and am disgusted w/ the lack of youth involvement at shows, etc. I think the high prices of equipment has something to do w/ it, but also it is all the old fogies and their politics. Ive been on equipment since i can remember, and even before that, yet i had to wait to turn 14 to drive my own tractor at the steam show, amongst a massive amount of untrained, usually old, operators. The boards of most clubs and shows are way past retirement. All they care about is how things used to be. Things need to change, or the $180,000 UDLX will only be worth scrap steel to the next generation.

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Texas Denny

03-06-2005 14:10:05




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Tucker, 03-04-2005 08:13:55  
Tucker, you make some very good points and express them with conviction. I probably am one of those old foggies you refer to. In our club, things were pretty open and uncontrolled as little as 10 years ago. Then fear over took our club (and maybe yours as well). Fear of what? Basically lawyers. We suddently needed insurance to get together. And insurance companies and lawyers started deciding how we could have fun. The first thing that we had to do was let young people drive tractors only with supervision. I think if the insurance company and lawyers get their will, we won't be able to even drive them at a show no matter how old we are. Now a days, if someone is hurt, there is always a lawsuit (lawyers come out of the woodwork to volunteer to sue people). In the old days, when us old foggies were kids, if you got hurt, it was your own fault. But since society is what it is, our rights and yours will be restricted in an effort to afford insurance and stay out of court.

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Jason(PA)

03-04-2005 19:01:46




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Tucker, 03-04-2005 08:13:55  
Tucker,I can relate to you. Im a little older then you(23 years)and I have been disgusted more then once with a local club I belong to. They always cry about how there is never any youth there to learn about all the "old" ways of doing things. Well,I always volunteered to help out at shows and even went to the work days they had every week to keep the show grounds looking good. Come show time there was always talk about younger people learning how to run steam engines,saw mills,cider press,hammer mills,etc,but when the time came you would always get stuck picking up trash or parking people. Don't get me wrong those not so glamours jobs need to be done to keep a show going,but I see the same older people hogging all the fun jobs. They are acting worse then kids!!! I would agree that the $$ of tractors these days may keep younger people away,but for the most part I think its just the way the world is today. Kids just don't care. We live in a world that is fast paced and action packed and driving along on a old tractor at a few mph or looking at them is not that exciting to younger person. I look on the brite side though. Down the road I think these tractors are going to fall way down in price so that means I will be able to buy more of them. I really don't care if my tractors are worth 50 cents each or 1 million each. I will try to hold on to them as long as I live cause opening up the garage door and seeing those neat looking machines of the past that I have worked so hard on is priceless.
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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 19:37:51




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Jason(PA), 03-04-2005 19:01:46  
With your concept of life, I think you are going to do fine in life. I agree with you on the not caring if the equipment is worth 50 cents or $1 million. That was not the intentions of the company. So why make it? You don't see implements bringing a high resale vaue, even though some of it can be often more rarer than the tractors, which is some parts falsifies the theory of supply and demand. Is their much demand for implements? Not sure, but the supply is definately lacking.

I also agree with you about the most part that keeps the kids away is the lifestyle. For some that show interest, I think the money is a concern also. Why else would the collectors club sponsor a kid for restoring a tractor, or put out a scholarship? Of course for the education aspect of it, and to get them interested, but also the cost comes into play.

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Old Ford Mechanic

03-04-2005 17:59:05




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Tucker, 03-04-2005 08:13:55  
Tucker,Why do you think all the old Fogies as you call them are at the shows? Its because they once upon a time beleive it or not were young and raised on a farm like you.They grew up operating equiptment and enjoyed it just like you.For most of them it was to put food on the table and clothes on their backs.And although a lot of them left the farm and moved on to other jobs the years of growing up on the farm has remained close to their hearts.As far as young people most of the parents and grandparents i see that are involved in the antique tractor business have younger members of the family involved with them.So before you start bashing these older guys think about why at age 16 you are involved today.Then think about 40 years from now and what you would want the younger folks to say about you then.Respect your elders and you'll be a much better man.It won't be as long as you think until you're an old fogie also.

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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 08:30:30




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Tucker, 03-04-2005 08:13:55  
I think the prices have gone up way too much over the past 10+ years. The UDLX used to be a $30k tractor not too long ago. Then all of a sudden it reached $75-100k just because people are asking that price, and people seem to be able to pay it. And now $180k? Even though it "has" to be a asking price, all that is doing is raising the market value! The same thing goes for the way the prices are on other commodities. Greed, it"s what"s wrong with the whole world.

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Kevin Moschenrose

03-04-2005 22:16:05




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Bosch_Tech, 03-04-2005 08:30:30  
There are some very valid points made by everbody here. But asking price does not bring up any thing on market value. Market value is only what the market will bare nothing more nothing less. Go to the bank and try and get a loan of 180,000.00 on a 1939 tractor and see where that gets you. I am in total agreement that this is out of line but that is where a fool and his money part ways. Besides we can all ask any price we want on a tractor. Heck I would price my Big Mo 400 military for 250,000.00 but do you think that is going to bring them up as well or any body stepping up to the plate to give me that for it? You really can"t compare that price to what Minneapolis Moline would think either look at collector cars and such. If we all knew what they where going to bring when they where 30 plus years old we would have bought one or two new and put them up in a barn. Personally a more collectable tractor would be the ZTIM or his 2 star crawler for the simple fact there was fewer production models of them vs. the UDLX. Now lets talk more about getting young folks involved in this tractor collecting. I am a young pup too at 40. Just my .03 cents worth since the market is coming up.

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Kevin Moschenrose

03-05-2005 08:21:58




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) NO COMMENTS TO THE ABOVE P in reply to Kevin Moschenrose, 03-04-2005 22:16:05  
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Farmallsh

03-04-2005 11:05:20




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Bosch_Tech, 03-04-2005 08:30:30  
I have to disagree. This is what drives our economy. Its called "Supply and Demand". When supplies are up down the price is up. The UDLX is a very rare unique machine. Do I think its worth $180,000? No but someone might. I see alot of "how much is this worth" on this sight and it all boils down to "what two fools agree on"



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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 11:14:19




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Farmallsh, 03-04-2005 11:05:20  
This is beyond "supply and demand". Also it is depleting our economy, of which we have none anymore. I think what's controlling our economy is beyond supply and demand as well. I suppose you believe the commodity markets are A-OK as well, too.

I agree with your last two sentences, FWIW.



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Dale Olson

03-05-2005 17:43:20




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 Re: Economics of a $180,000 UDLX in reply to Bosch_Tech, 03-04-2005 11:14:19  
If you really want to compare prices, look at what a dollar bought in 1939 compared to today. This can apply to all comodities, but I think it is more the value of the dollar dropping that you are seeing then anything else. I'm speculating off the top of my head here, but at $180,000, he's probably at about what the tractor was worth new. There are inflation rate tables that would show if this was the case or not.

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Bosch_Tech

03-05-2005 18:28:43




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 Re: Economics of a $180,000 UDLX in reply to Dale Olson, 03-05-2005 17:43:20  
That is probably it.

All I can say is it really jumps up at you.

Inflation rate tables would be neat to see.



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Dale Olson

03-06-2005 18:37:39




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 Inflation rate - read weep in reply to Bosch_Tech, 03-05-2005 18:28:43  
Here is a link to inflation rate tables from 1914 to the present.

Link

That $180,000 2005 dollar tractor would actually sell for 1262.14% less then that in 1939. It is still pretty pricy. My math may be off, but I figure that to be about $14,261 in 1939 dollars, and that would buy a neck of a lot back then.

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Bosch_Tech

03-06-2005 19:06:35




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 Re: Inflation rate - read weep in reply to Dale Olson, 03-06-2005 18:37:39  
Wow!! Thanks Dale!

Yes, that would buy a lot back then.

Wow! That's crazy! Or ridiculous!!



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YOUSE MM

03-04-2005 11:41:27




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Bosch_Tech, 03-04-2005 11:14:19  
THIS IS THE SAME GUY THAT IS ASKING 35,000 OUT OF A ZTI IT IS RARE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS JUST SHOWING WHAT HE HAS AND IS NOT SERIOUS ABOUT SELLING THEM



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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 12:44:56




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to YOUSE MM, 03-04-2005 11:41:27  
Yep..... saw all of his ads. Crazy.....

The guy is innocent, as no one is/has committed to it.

Someone should direct him to the photo gallery of the site rather than waste space in the photo ads. Might get more action there. ;-)



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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 08:34:07




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Bosch_Tech, 03-04-2005 08:30:30  
I also know someone who could have bought a UDLX about 10 years back for ~$20k. He thought it over some. Then he basically said, "well what would I want with that at my age". He still doesn't regret not buying it this day, even though the "asking" prices are quite a bit higher, which doesn't mean anything.



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SUPRDUD

03-03-2005 19:52:10




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 SOLD?? in reply to MMatt, 03-03-2005 14:36:20  
The story could use a few more details. Is that a sale or an asking price?

If someone wants to play with big money, I sure won't try to stop them. Want to buy a 4Star? Soon to be really really rare---honest!

Thanks in advance for some more info.



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Bosch_Tech

03-03-2005 19:08:31




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to MMatt, 03-03-2005 14:36:20  
Doubt it.....

Look at the rest of his ads. Pretty crazy prices IMO.

Frankly, this disgusts me. What would the company think of this? I think that all the -Molines and TC's should be gathered up and brought to one museum. They would serve more of a purpose there than the ones that are shuffled around. Either there, or put to work where they belong. This is coming from a farmer..... It's no longer a collectors hobby the way I view it. We have came into an era of "how much money can I get for this", "what can I get that no one else has" and just plain greed. That is one reason why I halted collecting. A guy just can't keep up with today's standards. I'm just happy to be able to use the things, the ones that I have.

B_T

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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 19:22:59




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Slick Willey, 03-04-2005 16:55:12  
Do not think of me as or compare me to dictators!

I'm not regulating anything, and am not pointing fingers. Don't know where you got that idea.


Sounds like some of you need to buy this guy a drink..... ....



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Slick Willey

03-05-2005 09:38:31




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Bosch_Tech, 03-04-2005 19:22:59  
Ill take a Budweiser, thanks



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Bosch_Tech

03-05-2005 09:54:36




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Slick Willey, 03-05-2005 09:38:31  
I meant the seller..... .

Your welcome :-)



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je

03-04-2005 16:42:16




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Bosch_Tech, 03-03-2005 19:08:31  
Well thats your view I am sure that it is none your or my business what the guy asks for his tractors. Just cause he asks 180000 does not mean he will get it.



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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 19:17:21




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to je, 03-04-2005 16:42:16  
True, and that's why I basically stated that in two of my posts. The guy is "innocent", not a crook, and it probably is an "asking price".



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F M-M

03-03-2005 18:09:47




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to MMatt, 03-03-2005 14:36:20  
Think about this. That $180,000 asking price probably represents all the revenue that MM received for the entire production run of 125 units more or less leaving the factory in 1938.



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Roger in Ks

03-03-2005 17:13:49




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to MMatt, 03-03-2005 14:36:20  
Depends on one thing. Are there enough generations of tractor collectors? I see very few young people at tractor (or car) shows.



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M Hornick

03-04-2005 18:02:41




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Roger in Ks, 03-03-2005 17:13:49  
There are some of us who are planning on keeping the hobby, I just turned the BIG 30. There are a limited # of UDLX's out there, but there are still other tractors. The MMCI Club also has the Preservation Grant, this is to help offset the cost of restoration, and other projects. If anyone is interested, check out the Club's Website.
Mike



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Four Feathers

03-04-2005 10:10:34




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Roger in Ks, 03-03-2005 17:13:49  
We need someone like Bill Gates to donate tractors to some of our schools for our people, girls and boys to rebuild as projects and then at the end let a lucky student in the project win the lovely rebuild. Why not he's giving millions for other projects', may someone pick up the baton and start the ball rolling.



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Jason(PA)

03-04-2005 19:08:30




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Four Feathers, 03-04-2005 10:10:34  
Believe me. I don't think kids would want to work on a tractor or even keep it. I know how my peers are!!



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720D

03-04-2005 05:01:59




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Roger in Ks, 03-03-2005 17:13:49  
I think alot more young people would get involved but they cant afford the prices.



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Jason(PA)

03-04-2005 19:12:51




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to 720D, 03-04-2005 05:01:59  
Yet the kids of today find money for cell phones,Jap cars withload exhaust,stereos that are worth more then the car,and beer and drugs. Get my point?? If they really wanted to they could do it.



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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 19:53:01




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Jason(PA), 03-04-2005 19:12:51  
Cell phones are cheaper and more economical. Jap cars with loud exhausts are used for daily vehicles which make more sense than driving a tractor around, although I know of someone who does drive a tractor around, for miles, a lot of miles. It's a shame but jap cars have been influenced a lot over the past years. Car stereos are often used more than tractors and are cheaper. Beer and drugs, well beer is getting way too common with younger people as well as drugs. I can't comment enough on both of those. All of these things have been grossly influenced over the past several years, increasing every year.

Now after saying that, a lot of people probably are related to all of these things. If you combine all of them together into one person, you probably aren't going to find some farm boy. There aren't a lot of young farmers around anymore. The ones that could have been but aren't all found something different or have been talked out of the operation by their parents. Now i'm talking post-high school people. The majority of young adults that I see with their own tractors either farm or are mechanics. I know there are young adults that don't fall under those categories, and I do know some on here that don't. You know who you are.

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Richard Kline

03-04-2005 09:01:03




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to 720D, 03-04-2005 05:01:59  
I agree with 720D. It's just like the car hobby, certain makes have gotten to the point where only the very rich can afford them. The kids have moved to imports and pickups, but in the tractor hobby I don't see any lower cost alternatives.



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Tex Aggie

03-03-2005 18:56:23




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Roger in Ks, 03-03-2005 17:13:49  
im one of the young guns (21)



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colekicker

03-04-2005 14:52:30




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Tex Aggie, 03-03-2005 18:56:23  
Well, I am an Texas Aggie and I am a young gun too, 22. I am also president of my local antique tractor and engine club. I'd say the average age of all our members is about 60-65.



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Roger in Ks

03-03-2005 19:46:32




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Tex Aggie, 03-03-2005 18:56:23  
One of the young guns ???

Guess that makes me an old Cannon.



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Mike Ahlers

03-04-2005 18:33:33




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Roger in Ks, 03-03-2005 19:46:32  
I have to say that I agree that some of these prices have gotten way out of hand, but I also have to say that UDLX's are averaging $100k plus in today's market, but if you see this particular UDLX you might agree that it is the nicest one you've ever seen, which I feel that it is. It probably still doesn't make it worth almost double, but this guy has asked 80% in excess of what anything he has is worth. As far as younger generations getting involved, I started collecting 11 years ago when I was 11 years old. I started with a $350 ZAU, and have moved up the ranks over the last few years. Now I have what I consider a very nice collection, but it has taken time, and yes, money. A young person can't afford a UDLX, but someday when we're older maybe we can. The rest of the MM's haven't appriciated as quick as a UDLX, and they won't.

As Mike H also stated there is a Grant Project available from the MMCI to promote the younger generation's involvement, and they haven't had many applicants in the past few years. MM collectors more than anyone promote the involvement of younger generations, I personaly have received 2- $500 scolarchips from them to help with my education, which I am very greatful for. I just hope that people don't get scared away from collecting old tractors because one particular tractor has a large price tag. There are still a lot of affordable tractor still out there to be bought. But this is just my 2 cents worth.

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Doug Cotton

03-05-2005 06:42:40




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Mike Ahlers, 03-04-2005 18:33:33  
Yeah Mike, but when you are a full fledged drug dealer in a few years, how am I going to be able to bid against you????? Ha, Ha!



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Mike Ahlers

03-05-2005 10:01:41




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Doug Cotton, 03-05-2005 06:42:40  
Let's set the record straight here Doug, I will be a LEGALIZED drug dealer in a few years. And I'd bid against you righ now just for the fun of it.



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Bosch_Tech

03-04-2005 19:59:30




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 Re: $180,000 UDLX (Wow) in reply to Mike Ahlers, 03-04-2005 18:33:33  
Mike, your two cents are well appreciated.

You have a very good collection and got started off on the right foot and worked your way up quite nicely. It does take money, time, and also opportunities.



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D Burt

03-04-2005 16:57:24




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 Big Bucks UDLX- did it sell yet? in reply to Roger in Ks, 03-03-2005 19:46:32  
The owner can ask any price he wants, it's the free enterprise system. Will anyone pay it? Maby someone with small brains and big money. Or even someone with big brains but lots of big money. I would like to know what the real final sales price will be, because that will give a realistic take on the whole matter. And we need those young guns to keep the interest alive, and the overall value of the tractors steady. Look what has happened to the Ford Model T and A collector markets and values.

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Superpicker

03-04-2005 20:25:32




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 Re: Big Bucks UDLX- did it sell yet? in reply to D Burt, 03-04-2005 16:57:24  
I am a young bud in this business (28) and as a high school ag teacher, I had two of my ag mech classes work on two M Farmalls, and, after we were done with our work, every student got some farm safety info. Last but not least the opportunity to drive one of the M's under the watchful eye of their teacher, me. I think almost every one enjoyed it. Out of almost 40 boys, only five live on farms and most had never set foot on a tractor before.

Next year I will have to get a couple of gold ones for them to work on. Look out "U's" here we come.

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moli

03-05-2005 13:49:11




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 Re: Big Bucks UDLX- did it sell yet? in reply to Superpicker, 03-04-2005 20:25:32  
Thats a little steep for anyone....I wonder what he paied for it...It is a great lookin tractor...Funny thing is ,there was only 3 cockshutt 580 s made and two were destroyed and one still lives and it only went for around 15,000 at auction couple yrs ago...Thers a few older pullers around here,one is around 86 yrs old..I dont think he should park cars but if you younger guys would help him put those 100 lb weights on you would might learn somthing even if it aint got nothing to do with tractors, life gets more important as you get older...Have you younger guys ever asked someone younger than you about tractors,pullin and life in general?? Probably not.Dont worry tho,well all be there some day.....OLD FARTS

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wayne ratliff

03-08-2005 06:03:16




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 Re: Big Bucks UDLX- did it sell yet? in reply to moli, 03-05-2005 13:49:11  
dad bought a 302 in 64 for 3500 traded it years later to a case dealer a guy bought it for 3200 years later sold it to another guy for 3000 we located it and tried to buy it the guy ask 3500 we didnt buy it strange the tractor sold 3 times for about the same money in 50 years



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