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Need first time ZB pulling advice

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Troy

08-31-2004 00:37:31

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Just getting a nice older restoration running again that I bought. Why sit and look at it when the sled is begging to be pulled?

13.6 x 38 tires, 10 years old, as new tread, no fluid.

Stock motor, runs nice, giving it the tune-up.

No weights on it now but have some.

I am planning to slide the drawbar ahead to the legal limit and max height for the clevis.

Wheelie bars, of course!!

What advice do you have as to weight classes and adding front vs. rear weights. I have not had it to a scale yet. Has fenders and hyd. on it.

I have read about turning new tires backwards. I'm game but does it work?

Thanks, T.

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Troy

09-02-2004 22:50:06

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Thanks, how about tire pressure and wt brackets? in reply to Troy, 08-31-2004 00:37:31

Thanks for the good advice.

Track will be hard and dry most likely. 10# in the rears right now.

For building suitcase wt brackets, should they be side to side right in front of the rear tires or from the rear tires forward to the front?

Will the 4 holes up front by the hand crank hold a bracket or should I reinforce it around the front to the other front holes on the sides?

Am I thinking too much? Sorry, just trying to build things once, not over and over....The pull is in 8 days so I may have to just use wheel wts this year. Are 2 bolts per wheel enough or do I need 4 to be safer?

Thanks again!

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mo4xdadad

09-03-2004 13:22:52

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Re: Thanks, how about tire pressure and wt bracket in reply to Troy, 09-02-2004 22:50:06

We use the original cultivator brackets that mount near the front and come out with square tubing on both sides of the tractor, then down, with a piece of heavy steel( like an old road grader blade cutting edge) welded to this going forward about even with the front wheels as low as possible. Make sure it is high enough to get on the scales though. We have a belly bar, and also a bracket across the back. About 12 to 14# in the rears 14X9X38 field and road firestones. your rear air depends on your specific ply, make, and size of tire, sometimes it even varies between the same manufacturer as to where the tire was actually made. Just play with it and have fun. Check your holes when you end your pull.If your tires look humpy you need more air.
If They look pretty flat then your probably close.

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mo4xdadad

09-02-2004 13:55:35

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Re: Need first time ZB pulling advice in reply to Troy, 08-31-2004 00:37:31

We usually run 200# up front in 4000# weight class. We only have a single front wheel though. Tighter tracks (clay) require more weight. We also have taller tires and wider (wide rims). Just play with it and have fun. Pull low gear. As far as turning the tires backwards that if for pulling on asphalt or concrete. Just go out and see how she pulls you could be suprised. By the way my za is set up for full time pulling. So we have stripped in places where you may have not so you will need to experiment with your own setup to see what works.

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Mopower

09-02-2004 11:13:09

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Re: Need first time ZB pulling advice in reply to Troy, 08-31-2004 00:37:31

I"m not so sure about backwards tires. I"ve heard of that, but old sharp tires work much better. Just a note. If your front wheels are off the ground, ALL the weight is on the rear wheels. BUT, if the front wheels go too high you lose some hitch height. Just a few things to think about.

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MMark

09-02-2004 03:45:58

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Re: Need first time ZB pulling advice in reply to Troy, 08-31-2004 00:37:31

You should be able to make 4000# class, 4500# and 5000# will be where you can pull. Make the drawbar is as short and tall as rules let you. Make sure the RPM's are as high as rules let you. Weights should be about 75/25 front to rear if you use wheel weights. Hook it up and have fun. If you need help with any engine mods let me know. Most require engine removal and teardown.

Have fun and let us know!
Mark Damewood

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