Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Minneapolis Moline Tractors Discussion Forum
:

585 question

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
MM

08-15-2004 10:15:27




Report to Moderator

was the 585 ever built with a turbo? or any aftermarket setups? will they bolt right into a G900-1000? any pulling advise for useing one of these motors?

thanks




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
L Klingler

08-20-2004 08:02:40




Report to Moderator
 Re: 585 question in reply to MM, 08-15-2004 10:15:27  
You should be able to DOUBLE your STOCK HP. (even a little more) on allmost all motors! The 585ci will take 350hp.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
I Know

08-19-2004 17:47:50




Report to Moderator
 Re: 585 question in reply to MM, 08-15-2004 10:15:27  
Danny Gray from Pleasant Hill,MO pulls a hot farm G-1350 MM diesel that must be making 400-500 horses.He may have a block girdle to hold the crank in place.

Its pictured on page 23 of the 2004 July Hook magazine in the Belgrade,MO tractor pull ad.It runs pretty good.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
James1

08-17-2004 13:08:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: 585 question in reply to MM, 08-15-2004 10:15:27  
Advice is to be very careful. The MM engine had only 4 mains. Typically a 6 cyl should have 7. If the crankshaft is beefy enough, the fewer bearings would not be a great problem. The MM crankshaft was strong, but not enough for the cyl pressures that adding a turbo and fuel for much greater hp would cause. A turbo for altitude normalization is OK, it allows you to maintain hp at higher altitudes. At lower altitudes it does little, just along for the ride. The MM engine was a great gas engine. The bottom end was just a little marginal for hp much above stock in the diesel version. Other diesel problems were: not big enough (thick) top/compression ring (would break around 3 to 4 thousand hours, and the pistons also needed an iron band for the top land ring.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Phil Munson

08-17-2004 20:39:36




Report to Moderator
 Re: 585 question in reply to James1, 08-17-2004 13:08:00  
It is true that the minnies only had four mains, and many others had seven. It is also correct that there were lots of other sixes that only had four mains. The Minnies, however are the only ones I know about that had FOUR bolt bearing caps; not crossbolted. They are a very large bearing. We had a 504D that turned the meter without building the engine, others only made a few thousand hours. It is how you use it and care for it. Some guys can break a crowbar.

As with any engine, especially souped up ones, an overdose of fuel, lugging, and general abuse can do them in.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
David

08-16-2004 09:50:22




Report to Moderator
 Re: 585 question in reply to MM, 08-15-2004 10:15:27  
My uncle had an A4T-1600 with a turbocharged 585. The thing ran like a beast if you could keep it together, which wasn't very often. I remember it spending more time down than actually in the field. It was a factory kit, but I don't know if it was factory or dealer installed.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mopower

08-16-2004 05:16:15




Report to Moderator
 Re: 585 question in reply to MM, 08-15-2004 10:15:27  
I know a G1000 Vista running a 585 turbo for pro-stock pulling classes. Pretty hot stuff.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Pistol Pete

08-15-2004 18:31:01




Report to Moderator
 Re: 585 question in reply to MM, 08-15-2004 10:15:27  
Yes the a few of the 585's were turboed from the factory. The last 75 of the A4T1600's were sent to Denver to be equipped with an "altitude compensator" (turbo) for farming the high plains. Of those 75, 50 of them were bought by Oliver and called the 2655. If my memory serves me corretly about a conversation w/Bob Hawks, M&W never made a kit for the 585. Don't know about anybody else. As for the last part of you question, I do not know.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Minni

08-20-2004 10:47:57




Report to Moderator
 Re: 585 question in reply to Pistol Pete, 08-15-2004 18:31:01  
does anyone know where I could find an exhaust manifold or any info on the turbo setup?


thanks



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy