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knute

03-12-2004 17:26:12




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How often do you replace your transmission oil? I have a '53 U whose manual says replace spring and fall. Spring with 140 and fall with 90.

Where can I get these transmission fluids?

Also, the manual says 30 non-det for the engine, but some say 30W non-det would be better for year round use. Thoughts?

Thanks.




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Thomas

03-15-2004 20:21:09




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 Re: tractor oils in reply to knute, 03-12-2004 17:26:12  
I like to get the grease gun out after I wash one and prefer to change the oil after wash if you plan it right then it keeps the water out of the system



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JC

03-14-2004 00:44:01




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 Re: tractor oils in reply to knute, 03-12-2004 17:26:12  
Most folks didn't go by the book and care for their tractor as well as they could have.
If you did everything by the manual, you would have a tractor that lasted forever, and you would be forever with a wrench in one have and a grease gun in another.
Maintanence is the key, you have to use your own good judgement as to what conditions and what hours your tractor will be worked.
I personally change rear end oil every spring. I also repack all bearings and take up any slack in the steering.

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JAKE

03-13-2004 18:52:26




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 Re: tractor oils in reply to knute, 03-12-2004 17:26:12  
In addition to draining all fluids and refilling with A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT you need to slowly and carefully pull each drain plug every spring to remove any condensation (water) that may have developed over the winter. The water will be in the bottom of the gear case and come out before oil, when water stops and oil starts replace drain plug and bring fluid level up to proper level



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Wayne

03-13-2004 12:02:09




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 Re: tractor oils in reply to knute, 03-12-2004 17:26:12  
It is amazing you guys just look at the price and not at the QUALITY!!!!! !



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Kelvin

03-13-2004 05:58:35




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 Re: tractor oils in reply to knute, 03-12-2004 17:26:12  
Actually, I'm pretty sure its not hard to find tractors that are still running the original transmission oil, although I usually change it when I restore one. Seems like once every 5 years or so would be plenty unless you are putting several hundred hours on one per year.



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Bob M

03-12-2004 19:15:09




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 Re: tractor oils in reply to knute, 03-12-2004 17:26:12  
Knute - I run 80W-90 year round in transmission on my '47 UTU. It works fine from 90 deg to below 0. Unless your tractor is a daily worker under harsh conditions (dust/rain), you can probably go 10 years or longer between changes. I buy 80W-90 oil in 5 gallon pails at NAPA, Autozone or whoever has it cheapest. Incidentally the tranny holds 13+ gallons...

For year round use in the crankcase 10W-30 (or 15W-40) detergent oil works fine.

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BLT

03-12-2004 19:03:01




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 Re: tractor oils in reply to knute, 03-12-2004 17:26:12  
I changed the trans oil in my '47 UTS last year, I would wager that it was the first time it had been changed. It took me 15 gallons of diesel to wash it out clean, it was stacked up and looked like gun grease. Nobody I ever knew who farmed with U's ever changed the trans oil and they would make 20 plus years of hard work. get the oil @ Gebo's or Tractor Supply, it's just gear lube, you can also get it in multi grade. I prefer 30 wt. crankcase oil and I doubt you can find non-detergent.

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Mopower

03-15-2004 07:41:05




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 Re: Re: tractor oils in reply to BLT, 03-12-2004 19:03:01  
I have had several U tractors with original grease. It was just like molasses. In the winter it was tough going in 5th gear. Even tougher to shift. I use 80W-140 and it works great. To flush my model R I have half ATF mixed with 90W tranny fluid. The detergent in the ATF should cut some of the chocolate out of it if I drive it around a little. We'll see...only experimenting...maybe add some diesel in there. I have drained gallons of water out of old trannys. Can't help but think that is a little rough on things especially in cold weather.

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STEVE

03-17-2004 14:56:26




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 Re: Re: Re: tractor oils in reply to Mopower, 03-15-2004 07:41:05  
I AGREE WITH MOPOWER ACCEPT FOR ONE THING I WOULD NOT USE DEISEL THE ADDITIVES IN DEISEL WILL CRACK YOUR SEALS KEROSINE WOULD BE BETTER. IF THE SEALS ARENT LEAKING 80W90 AND ATF DRIVE,DRAIN & REFILL WITH 80W140.

ALSO THE NEW DETERGENT OILS ARE SUPERB I HAPPEN TO USE 15W40 BUT THE MAJORITY USE STRAIT 30W. IT'S A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE.



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