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Two Model UTS Questions

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JC

02-25-2004 22:23:56




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I need to know the following, does a starter off of a Z fit a U also, if so, what years interchange.
Second question, I know the UTS is rated as a 3-4 plow tractor, but what type of small subsoiler will a UTS handle? I have 40 acres to subsoil and want to do it myself, and my U is the biggest horse I have, any suggestions?
(I know....get a bigger tractor...) I will if you give me the money!

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John G

02-26-2004 17:08:04




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 Re: Two Model UTS Questions in reply to JC, 02-25-2004 22:23:56  
We have a JD single point subsoiler on rubber, my buddies JD 435 "2x53 Detroit" will pull it in low, about 24" in the ground, my U will pull it in 3rd, 336 ci on LP.



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Kelvin

02-26-2004 17:00:54




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 Re: Two Model UTS Questions in reply to JC, 02-25-2004 22:23:56  
What year is your UTS? It is gas or LP, isn't it?

It appears from my aftermarket parts catalog, that '44-'52 gas&lp starters use the same bendix drive. That means they should physically fit in the crankcase and the bendix would engage the ring gear.

However, from experience, not all Z's have starters with the center bearing on the armature and some may not have 4 field coils. The center bearing keeps the armature from flexing under torque and dragging on the field shoes. Four fields should allow it to develop more torque than two.

This case may be actually a starter intended for an R.

It would probably be easier to say it s O.K. to use a U starter in a Z, since the torque demand should be less.

Around here,(NC) The old timers used a steel wheel subsoiler with a single point. had a rope trip lift to pull it out of the ground. I was told you just put in the ground as deep as your particular tractor will pull it, so depth must have been adjustable somehow.
Sorry, seems like it was loaned around the community, owned by somebody else and I don't know what ever became of it.

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