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Spuds

01-28-2004 14:28:51




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John, I'm currently putting together a ZA to pull in 4500 lb class. I'm at the cross roads of putting bigger pistons 3 3/4+.060 or putting .040 pistons and a lp head. People I've talk to say you would get just as much power from the .040 and lp head as going with a big bore stock head. I sure would like to have an opion from you and any one else that has knowledge in this field. This is my first Moline to restore and build for pulling.
Thank you.(pulling season's coming fast!!)
Spuds

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John G

01-28-2004 16:53:39




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 Re: Question for John G. in reply to Spuds, 01-28-2004 14:28:51  
Spuds, I've been pulling my '37 JTU/206 3 3/4"x5" in our local pull since '88. We only have a '39 & older #5500 class, used to be 1st gear and 10% over stock rpm. I'm very competitive, but never pulled anywhere else. The "old" guys tell me when/if I use the LP head, I'll loose lugging power on the low end (at the end where you need it). I can pull just as far in 2nd gear as I can in 1st, still 10% over RPM, using the RE226C head. Never put the 10A head on it, maybe I should try that. They also told me that you may have to bore more than 2 blocks to find ones thick enough to NOT blow out the cyl wall. I've seen a ZTU, #3500, 3 7/8" that ran quite well in the Mendota, IL area, I heard he went thru a couple of blocks. I had mine on a PTO dyno at a tractor show 5 years ago, and when it got to 47 HP, they shut off the dyno, said I wasn't stock, and it hadn't really started to pull down. I pull against a G JD with a power block and when there is no driver error, I can outpull him. 3 3/4" is VERY dependable, I've used this tractor to pull 3x14 and a 12' disc for 15 years, can go anywhere in 2nd and run all day, no problem. Don't know if I helped, but mine is DEPENDABLE.

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Byron

01-28-2004 16:39:07




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 Re: Question for John G. in reply to Spuds, 01-28-2004 14:28:51  
Put a larger starter on it this should make it turn over faster, once you get more compression talk to you soon, did you know Dave C. and Coleen C. bought Russ Browns z lp?



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Mopower

01-29-2004 10:03:46




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 Re: Re: Question for John G. in reply to Byron, 01-28-2004 16:39:07  
I heard about Dave's new purchase, but I have not been over to see it yet. That would be a neat one. I have a ZA motor with LP heads/manifold, 3.81 bore, as well as a couple other special things. I have not cranked it up yet. I know one fella had a 3.875 bore Z motor dynoed at 65 h.p. I hope mine will get close to that.

Ethan



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