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bill guldi

01-18-2004 14:00:45




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i have a 1940 RTS MM mod.#404735, the guy i got it from had new brakes put on just before i got it. now when it gets cold the brake on one side will not let loose. i can backup ok but when i go forward it will go just a few feet then it stick again. it works ok in the summer when its warm but won't work in cold weather. i think he put 90wgt gear lube in the rear end and wonder just what wgt & kind it is supose to be. any sugestions would be helpful.

thanks: bill

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Kelvin

01-18-2004 18:38:32




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 Re: trans rear oil in reply to bill guldi, 01-18-2004 14:00:45  
I'm thinking you probably have a broken spring. Its been a while since I had one apart, but the brake disk on the '40 model worked more like a clutch than the later double disk brakes the other guys are talking about. I guess it could be the seal, but seems like you would have problems in both directions. The actuator rod actually pulls the outer plate on cams to clamp the brake disk to the inner plate on the transmission.
One thing you might try before you pull the axle: loosen the three 3/8" capscrews in the things that look like pipe bushings that are in the axle housing and turn the 'bushings' out 1/4 turn. this should back off the plate adjustment slightly, in case the problem is only brake adjustment.

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Bleeding Yellow

01-18-2004 17:09:46




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 Re: trans rear oil in reply to bill guldi, 01-18-2004 14:00:45  
I am no expert by no means. We have a 670 and a few years back we did both brakes on it. It was doing the same thing. I dont know if we did the seals but I dont remember ever noticing a seal leak. We dealt with this problem for a year. Then it dissappeared. We were later told that the new compounds used in brakes were different than the old compounds of yesteryear. They said for some reason doing both brakes caused this. So we also have a 5 star and it needed brakes did one side one year and one the next. Did not have any problems. Like I said made no sense to me then makes no sense to me now, but it worked for us. They also said that the reason it problem disappeard was that the brakes wore in. Now all of this could have been from a leaky seal that the mechanic didn't want to find and fix so take it for what it is worth.

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G. L. Grumpy

01-18-2004 15:55:00




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 Re: trans rear oil in reply to bill guldi, 01-18-2004 14:00:45  
The problem is oil leaking onto brake discs I bet. If you put in new brakes, always replace the seals too, or gear oil gets on new discs, swells them up, makes them stick. They will need to be replaced and new seals THEN, and should be OK. Any chance you don't have adjusted correct? Maybe over centers and locks? There are three adjuster bolts at axle housing to mess with, you should get owner's manual for instructions. Try that first, otherwise back to first idea.

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