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Picture of U302, whats it worth?

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earlschieb

10-29-2003 14:12:30




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I was asking about this tractor the other day, it is listed in the auction as needing engine work, well that seems to be an understatement, as it is torn down, crank has been exposed for a long time, and appears to have spun a bearing, nothing inside of engine is rust free, so a complete overhaul is a positive statement. The auction is this Saturday, so give me a ballpark whats it worth. It seems like it was showing 2500 hours on it.

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Phil

10-31-2003 17:14:33




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 Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 14:12:30  
GAH!.... Looks very similiar to how I found my 66 JetStar 3 Super when I bought it.... GAH!..

Anyway, I paid $500.00 for my JetStar in very similiar condition this past August. It now RUNS, but I have a clutch problem that I need to get straight then I can move forward fixing other things on the tractor.

However, I can tell you about what it might cost to get it back into shape. Over the past few months I bought all of my parts and rebuilt the engine. You will spend $1000.00 on engine parts.. pistons, rings, gaskets, bearings, etc. Then you will spend another $500.00 on having the crank turned, blocks bored, Heads done. Add another $100 to that number if you have to replace all the valves. The $500 includes all the fluids, tune-up items, etc. I bought all of my parts from Welters or NAPA.

I went with new .040 over pistons and rings. I had the crank turned .010 under and got the appropriate main and rod bearings.

I now have about $2,000.00 total in my tractor including the cost of the tractor itself. Its been a fun project so far. I will spend another $700 to $800 on it to complete it. I still need new tires, paint, seat and some misc. stuff. In the end, I will have about $3000 in it. I do not think that is too bad a price for this type of tractor. I will at least know WHAT I HAVE.

Phil

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David

10-31-2003 18:25:52




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 Re: Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to Phil, 10-31-2003 17:14:33  
Boy, I would like your machine shop. I just spent $350 just to have a set of heads redone just exhaust seats, three new guides and a valve job. That's with a nice discount because the guy is my grandmother's neighbor. The last time I had blocks bored it was $40 a hole including honing. It cost me $100 to have a single cylinder crank turned 10 under.



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Phil

11-01-2003 09:44:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to David, 10-31-2003 18:25:52  
Wow!.. It was $100.00 to have my blocks bored .040 all 4 holes this included honing the bores as well. This was at my local NAPA machine shop.

I had to take the crank to another shop as my NAPA shop does not turn cranks anymore. (Too busy to mess with them.) The crank was $100.00 - normally, they charge $125.00. However, I called them up on the phone and described what I had to the shop. He originally quoted me $65.00 (That's the normal price for a regular crank). When I dropped it off I was told that it wasnt quite what he had expected and that they normally get $125.00, but since he quoted me $65, he'd give me a break on the price and was $100 fair. (The prices were posted on the wall.. so he was still giving me a deal.)

My local NAPA shop that I work with is pretty fair on prices. He does a good job as far as I am concerned. Last set of heads he did for me cost me $175.00 for everything. I had to supply the valves, but they were only $10.00 and $15.00 each. He came up with the guides and seats. Those were the blocks for my RTI that he did a valve job on. Not the JetStar. I decided to run what I have for awhile on the Jet. Everything looked good and appeared to seal well, so I elected to not do a valve job on it right now. Its running and seems to run well - so far.

Phil

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havvey

10-30-2003 19:41:35




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 Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 14:12:30  
EARL IN MY AREA MOLINE ARE SCARCE BUT I WOULD SAY 1000 OR LESS THE WIDE FROUNT???
ANY ENGINE REBUILD CAN GET EXSPENCIVE AND YES YOU MGHT GET A BETTER ONE FOR 2500 PLUS



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deadeye

10-30-2003 02:35:57




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 Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 14:12:30  
I would bid on the barn boards as they seem to be worth more than the the tractor would be worth. Not even a good parts tractor. Scalper price. $50 or less. Not a scalper.----deadeye



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steve

10-31-2003 08:24:16




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 Re: Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to deadeye, 10-30-2003 02:35:57  
Deadeye's comment is the most intelligent information I've on this site in months....



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Jim

10-30-2003 01:51:01




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 Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 14:12:30  
Just a simple opinion, I would run like the wind.
The tractor pictured is a basket case that will eat up much money and further still, your valuable time.
Buy a good one, put your effort into that.
I would attend the auction, if it goes REAL cheap, buy it to use as a good parts tractor to the good one I hope you buy.
I saw a MM G in similar shape sell for $500.00 last week.



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Aron

10-29-2003 20:29:49




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 Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 14:12:30  
I am in Central Illinois and the MM values are fairly similar to Indiana. The one in your picture is a 1966 U-302 Super. I had one in similar condition that ran well, had 3pt, 6000 hours... For $2500. Like the one in the picture it needed paint, decals, the tires were shabby.

If you want a really nice original 66' U302 super... Call Jenning's Implement in Bement, Illinois. Last time I was down there they had a gem of a U302. I think it was around the upper 3000s or low 4000s...???

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earlschieb

10-29-2003 21:10:37




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 Re: Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to Aron, 10-29-2003 20:29:49  
Thanks Aron, in case you are interested, the serial # is - 27601883 - I am just looking for something to mess around with, and then maybe sell it, but I will price the parts before I make up my mind.



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steve

10-29-2003 18:18:35




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 Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 14:12:30  
I sold a similar U-302 with a bad knock that turned out to be a rod bearing for $900 a couple of years ago. It was a complete tractor with good sheet metal and poor rear tires. It did not have a three point.It had been ridden hard and put away wet on many occasions. The entire three point unit is worth close to a thousand as a part out deal. Good luck.



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David

10-29-2003 17:16:47




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 Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 14:12:30  
It looks like it would be a good parts tractor. U-302's that are in good running shape aren't that hard to find, so to buy this one and put alot of money into it is almost a waste. By the time you bought it ( I would say it is worth between $1000 and up depending on the area it is in) and the cost to rebuild, it would just be cheaper to buy a good running one. If you buy it and want to part it out, I would be interested in at least one fender. If your not interested, where is the auction at as I would like a parts tractor.

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earlschieb

10-29-2003 17:31:57




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 Re: Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to David, 10-29-2003 17:16:47  
Thanks, it is in Indiana, I will let you know if I get it bought.



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DOK

10-29-2003 17:15:46




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 Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 14:12:30  
Hard to put a value on the U302. You know the engine has problems. What you do not know is the condition of the TA, hydraulics. pto, etc. since you can not opeerate the tractor. Only my opinion, but I would be cautious with so many unknown issues. I think you should be able to buy a operating U302 from $2500 to $5000 depending on overall condition. Did you read my responce to your previous post concerning values?

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earlschieb

10-29-2003 17:29:05




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 Re: Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to DOK, 10-29-2003 17:15:46  
Yes I did, and thank you for replying. All info is appreciated, like I said the other day I am a newbie to Minnie Mo equipment.



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DOK

10-29-2003 18:07:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Picture of U302, whats it worth? in reply to earlschieb, 10-29-2003 17:29:05  
I see you are from Indiana. I am in northcentral Indiana near Peru. I have a brother that has several Minniapolis Molines of the 60's era. I am sure he would be glad to be of any help if you have questions. Let me know if you have MM questions. He does not use the Internet.



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