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RTU lacks power

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Kyle Sands

07-30-2003 10:40:20




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I finally got my '47 RTU project tractor running earlier this month. It starts up well, runs pretty smoothly, however it lacks power. 1st through 3rd gears are just fine. But going from 3rd to 4th it really loads down. If I am going downhill, or any kind of down grade, it's fine. But on a flat grade, it really loads up, and I can forget about trying to climb any kind of grade - not just hills, but a rise in the driveway will nearly stop it. It loads up so much that I'm afraid I'll break the crankshaft if I let it run too long that way.

Before I go start a complete engine rebuild, I was wondering if any of you might be able to suggest some other causes for this lack of power. It runs smoothly at all speeds in 1st-3rd gears, so it doesn't seem that ignition timing would be the cause. Valve clearance has been set properly, though I may have a worn out camshaft (could valve timing and duration be an issue?). The carb has been cleaned, though not rebuilt. using the hand crank, it feels like it has good compression, though it may very well need new rings/pistons. And the governor seems to work alright...of course it could be a combination of all the obove. Talk about a tall request!

Thank you for your help. Regards,

Kyle Sands <>< Huntley, MN

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Charley

07-31-2003 19:37:41




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 Re: RTU lacks power in reply to Kyle Sands, 07-30-2003 10:40:20  
Have you checked the oil level in the differential? May be way over full.



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jocco

07-31-2003 18:50:36




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 Re: RTU lacks power in reply to Kyle Sands, 07-30-2003 10:40:20  
do the compression test to check the engine and look at the tranny for any problems mine is fast in #4 and no great power



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Bob M

07-31-2003 06:15:40




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 Re: RTU lacks power in reply to Kyle Sands, 07-30-2003 10:40:20  
Kyle - Is the transmission truly "loading" the engine in 4th gear, or is the engine simply lacking power? If it's lacking power check to see whether the governor can open the carb throttle plate all the way�

I had somewhat similar problem when I got my '47 UTU. Turned out a previous owner added a spring to the linkage so the motor would idle, trying to correct for a worn and badly adjusted governor to carb link. After removing the cobbled-on spring and shortening the link (bent it a bit at the "kink") the governor can again fully stroke the throttle. The motor now picks up the load and will maintain RPM in road gear as it should. It also now idles down very nicely.

Nice photos on your RTU page BTW!

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Kyle Sands

07-31-2003 10:05:14




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 Re: Re: RTU lacks power in reply to Bob M, 07-31-2003 06:15:40  
Bob, thanks for the reply. The governor sure looks like it is working properly. At partial throttle, if I try to increase the engine RPM by pulling on the governor arm, there is definite resistance as the governor tries to hold it down.

I also shifted into 3rd gear and locked the brakes. As I engaged the clutch, the engine loaded up and I watched the governor linkage as it opened up the carb. So it is moving freely.

It very well may be that I just don't have any power. Seems I have good compression, so maybe my camshaft is worn out. I haven't opened it up to check yet. Regards,

Kyle Sands <>< Huntley, MN

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