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Tom from Ontari

02-28-1999 18:50:29

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There's a 1355 for sale in the area but because this is Ontario, it is known as a White 2270. I know it's a 585 ahead of an Oliver drivetrain and I would like to hear of experiences either way with them. I heard from one fellow on the Oliver page, but I'd like to hear more. Thanks. Tom

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D Ward

03-02-1999 10:47:50

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Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to Tom from Ontario, 02-28-1999 18:50:29

Can't give you any experience. I just bought one (N Kansas/S Nebraska) with a cab. I intend to put a front loader on it for moving logs & other stuff.

Mine had had some engine work 1800 hrs ago, including the external oil pump conversion. My local source told me that the exhaust manifold often warps and leaks, easily shimmed with an extra gasket under the culprit port.

Mine has a mfgr installed fuel pre-warmer, that isn't working and a non-working fuel gauge. Any suggestions on repair of these would be appreciated.

BTW, Tom, keep in touch if you get the Mighty 1355.

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Len

02-28-1999 22:16:24

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Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to Tom from Ontario, 02-28-1999 18:50:29

The engines weren't as reliable as in ealier MM's because White was running them lots faster. One of the problems was the oil pump shaft would shear off which then got expensive fast. I think the cure was a dealer installed conversion to an external pump. I don't recall hearing about problems with the rest of the tractor.

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D Ward

03-04-1999 14:05:39

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Re: Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to Len, 02-28-1999 22:16:24

Can this or should this be tampered with. Would there be any improvement or harm in slowing the idle on the 585D engine for better fuel economy, longer engine life or the earthy feeling of that big engine chugging along?

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JAG

03-06-1999 05:51:23

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Re: Re: Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to D Ward, 03-04-1999 14:05:39

Hi guys, the 585 is a descent engine you just have to know all the weak points and fix them. We have four of these engines in our own tractors and have rebuilt up to ten or so, some even turbocharged. We often, as one man suggested, run at a slower rpm, 2000,2100. The oil pump gear on the internal pump is definitely the point to keep an eye on. As far as the preheater is concerned, if you are talking about the heater on the intake manifold it is usually the one relay bad down by the starter that operates this heater. If I can help in any way feel free to E-mail me. Have a good day.
Jack Gordon

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D Ward

03-06-1999 16:53:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to JAG, 03-06-1999 05:51:23

So far I am aware of the oip pump problem (mine has been retrofitted with an external oi; pump, and that the exhaust manifold has a tendency to warp. I've been told that this can be solved by using extra exhause manifold gaskets on the wayward port (the middle one on mine).

I sure would appreciate suggestions about other
areas to keep an eye on for problems.

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JAG

03-06-1999 20:38:26

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to D Ward, 03-06-1999 16:53:42

Most of the time I take a heavy duty grinder to the exhaust manifold and grind it untill I get it flat by checking with a straight edge and a feeler gauge. But I have tried the double gasket thing and it works in a pinch. One major thing, is not to use ether, or not too much. You see those pistons are tapered , smaller at the top, allowing for expansion during heating up. If you use starting fluid it can blow fire down along the piston and burn a ring and piston. I have maybe 20 pistons on the shelf as proof of this. Watch the suction line on external pump for deterioration, if it is a hydraulic hose type line. They can suck air if there is a small crack and you loose oil pressure going down the field. And the water pump seals tend to wear if proper coolant is not used. If you get water in the oil, that is usually the culprit. Also if you have a 2-150,1355, or 2270, the seal in the transmission that seals the live shaft for the PTO tends to leak. If this happens your clutch will slip under load. Just a few things, nothing major, hope I was of some help and I'm sure I'll remember more, as my brain doesn't always work as good as my hands.
JAG

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David

03-08-1999 19:13:30

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to JAG, 03-06-1999 20:38:26

JAG--

What do you believe is the minimum low temperature to expect a G1350 to start without "help", e.g. ether, block heater, etc. I have one which doesn't start when the temperature is below 60 degrees F, and smokes a good deal. Once started, it runs smooth, and sounds OK. I haven't had a chance to get it into the field to check the power output of this machine. I have no idea how many hours are on this engine, or what kind of care it received from its previous owners. It has external oil pump and was in and out of the MM dealer's shop in its early days. What would you suggest in the way of diagnostics to ascertain the health of this engine?

Thanks for your help.

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HHHHHHH

03-18-1999 18:28:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to David, 03-08-1999 19:13:30

OUT OF TIME. RETIME ENGINE

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03-09-1999 16:34:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to David, 03-08-1999 19:13:30

David, A moderate amount of ether is ok. The block heater is necessary at lower temps., around freezing. The 1355 didn't come along late enough for the high injection pressures to start without help. If it will start above 60 w/o ether it must be a good one. The external oil pumps were a excellant addition to the old 585.

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D Ward

03-07-1999 17:04:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Mighty 1355 in reply to JAG, 03-06-1999 20:38:26

Thanks. I keep a journal and this is the stuff I won't remember in 6-12 months. DGW

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