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50%-50% Mixture

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Jim

01-27-2001 13:31:23




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A major automobile manufacturer reccommends as little as 44% antifreeze in coolant mixture. What is said is that actually straight water(distilled of course)makes for better cooling than a mixture. However one must use antifreeze for obvious reasons but to keep it aroud 50% is a wise decision. The antrfreeze actually acts as an insulator to the heat so running a heavy mixture will cause excessive heat to remain in combustion chamber/cylinder walls . Antifreeze manufacturers show a max of 70% but it seems that for best cooling keeping it closer to 50% is better according to what I''ve heard.

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B.C.

02-02-2001 07:56:56




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 Re: 50%-50% Mixture in reply to Jim, 01-27-2001 13:31:23  
If you spend a buck or two more a gallon you can get propylene glycol based antifreeze that can be mixed up to 70% or more. Ethylene glycol mixtures if I recall have an optimum ratio around 50% for lowest freeze point. Beyond that it doesn't do any more good to add ethylene glycol.

The propylene glycol stuff is also non toxic, so if there is a spill or something and your cat or dog manages to drink some of it (the glycol mixtures are sweet and they go for it) they won't suffer an slow miserable death. The traditional ethylene glycol stuff is bad news to animals.

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Jack in NB

01-28-2001 05:42:27




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 Re: 50%-50% Mixture in reply to Jim, 01-27-2001 13:31:23  
Hi Jim -

Antifreeze does two things - protects from freezing, and protects from corrosion. It may also act as a water pump lubricant, but I'm not convinced on this one.

The mix ratio determines the degree of protection from freeze-up. 50-50 covers you to about 35-40 below F. If you don't get that cold, you can use less than 50% antifreeze - containers usually have a chart of ratios for various temperature protection on them.

Antifreeze also protects engines from corrosion. Rust on the older cast iron engines, and electrolytic action (read battery acid behaviour!) on the newer multi-metal engines. These corrosion protection additives for the newer engines wear out - which is why the mfrs recommend regular replacement, to keep the engines from self-digesting.

We haven't found this to be a problem with the older engines - the antifreeze itself seems to keep the rust down.

There is some advantage to distilled water. Some of the chemicals in ordinary water settle out on the first heating (like teakettle scale). This, and dirty water, can build up deposits in the bottom of the block and rad, and on the rad core.

We reuse our antifreeze, topping up with raw to bring it up to (or down to?) strength, to reduce the amount of fresh water (and fresh guck) added.
Also eliminates an environmental problem in disposal of the used product.

Long winded - hope it helps.

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