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Sebastien

05-18-2008 16:03:31

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Hi!
I got a problem whith my Massey fergusson (165 whith multipower) .When I was driving i push the clutch pedal to stop and when i went to go foward the tractor was stuck...the clutch doesnt engage anymore....im able to put it in any gears but it doesn move.I remove the cover under the transmission and evrything work great but it look to have a bit of oil but not on the clutch.And this winter my 3 point stop working and my loader still work.

Multipower problem??

If someone can help me it would be appreciated!!!
sorry for my bad english I speak French
Thanks!!

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Sebastien

05-19-2008 09:56:39

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to Sebastien, 05-18-2008 16:03:31

Ha bien merci!
le tracteur avance plus du tout multipower low ou high.The tractor dont move in multipower low.

l hydrolique fonctionne sur le devant seulement mais pas sur le 3 point.the hydrolic work on the front but not on the 3 point on the rear.

what is PDF?

et si cela peu aider lorsque je pese sur la pedal d embrayage je n ai plus aucune resistance comme auparavant et cela c est produit en appuiyant un coup seulement.les ajustement non pas ete toucher.
if it can help, when i press the clutch pedal i dont have any resistance anymore

merci!
thanks

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DavidP, South Wales

05-19-2008 00:13:43

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to Sebastien, 05-18-2008 16:03:31

Bonjour Sebastien,
Votre anglais est tres bon!!
Will the tractor move in Multi-Power 'Low'?
Are the hydraulics and PDF still working?
There is a shear tube in the drive line which may be broken but it would help to have answers to the above questions first.
J'attend vos responses.
DavidP, Sud Payes de Galles

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Sebastien

05-19-2008 12:19:52

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-19-2008 00:13:43

il n'avance plus du tout (multipower low ou high)les vitesse entre tres bien mais losque je relache la pedale d'embrayage il ne se produit rien.
bon je vien d'aller voir le tracteur.....ma pedal est OK j'ai du jeu et losque j'appuie au fond j'ai de la resistance.j'ai enlever l'huile et le couvercle avec les 2 levier de vitesse.
-le premier shaft avec la clutch pour le multipower ne tourne pas est-ce normale?
-le 2e celui ou les levier tourne librement au neutre.
l'hydrolique fonctionne en avant seulement mais pas sur le 3 point a l'arriere.

merci
Sebastien, Quebec, Canada

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DavidP, South Wales

05-20-2008 00:39:16

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to Sebastien, 05-19-2008 12:19:52

Bonjour Sebastien,
Merci pour votre reponses et traduire.
Je suis desolee pour mon francais mauvais!!!
En ce moment c'est ne pas necessitaire pour demonte le couvercle avec les deux leviers de vitesse.
Est ce que le pedal d'embrayage est douce? dans le premier etage et aussi le deuxieme etage?
Si il est dans le premier etage seulement c'est possible que le problem est dans le support du roulement butec.
Je pense que le support a rouille et ne glissade pas. C'est possible que le support est saisir dans le mouvement du premier etage. Seulement les ressort des retour leve le pedal.
Avec une lampe regardez le mouvement du roulement butec. Demandez une assistant pour poussez le pedal d'embrayage. Regardez le mouvements douce des roulement butec, les leviers butec et l' attelage du embrayage. Si vous n'avez pas le mouvement d'attelage ou une tres petit quantite c'est probable il est le support du roulement butec.
PDF---Prise de Force----- PTO

RSVP
Caio
DavidP, South Wales

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Sebastien

05-20-2008 06:51:53

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-20-2008 00:39:16

bonjours!
-La pedale est douce au debut et vers la moitier elle devien dur puis elle revien toute seule jusqu'en haut sans probleme(elle a toujours ete comme ca et fonctionnait tres bien).The pedal is soft on the 1st half and the 2nd half i got resistance and it come back with no probleme like when i got it.
-lorsque je n'appuis pas le bearing de clutch tourne et lorsque j'appuie au fond il ne tourne plus(donc elle fontionne bien).When i dont press the pedal the centerbearing is free and when i press it dont move(so it work well)
-le PTO fonctionne tres bien.Il part et arrete lorsque je l'embraye avec le levier.The PTO work well it run and stop when i push or pull the levers.

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DavidP, South Wales

05-20-2008 08:15:00

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to Sebastien, 05-20-2008 06:51:53

Hello,
Might be easier en anglais!!!!
Does your tractor have an Independant PTO?
When the pedal is pushed in the first stage, can you see the clutch linkage in the cover moving?
Or does it only move when the pedal is pressed in the second stage?
Can you see the vis and ecrous in the release levers?
Approximately how far does the release bearing move between foot off the pedal and the resistance of the second stage?
David

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Sebastien

05-20-2008 09:01:20

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-20-2008 08:15:00

ok....for the PTO i think its independent i have a lever on the left side to engage or to stop it.and it work.
for the pedal i will check it and maybe take some picture it will help.
thanks

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DavidP, South Wales

05-20-2008 12:37:38

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to Sebastien, 05-20-2008 09:01:20

Bonsoir,
Je vais alle au exposition agricole demain.
Je retour ici le Jeudi.

David

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Sebastien

05-24-2008 14:30:51

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Re: tractor stop moving! in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-20-2008 12:37:38

Hi!
So i check what you ask me..so there it is
-it have an independant PTO (and it work)
-When the pedal is pushed in the first stage I saw the linkage moving
-The bearing move (approximately) 1/2 to 3/4 inches

I would like to know : Do we feel normaly any resistance when we push the lever for the multipower High,low(because I dont feel anything when I play with it)

everything working great for the cluth and the pedal.nothing jammed or loose
I took some picture for you there is the link

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