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M-F 65: Removing R/H Tie Rod from Master Arm

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dandzivi

05-12-2008 19:07:40




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OK, back again begging advice before I tear something up. I'm in the middle of disassembling the front end on my 65 diesel. I got the L/H tie rod seperated from both ends with no problem. Likewise with the outside end of the R/H tie rod. But I can not see what holds the inside end of the R/H tierod into the master arm. Looks like it is pressed in or something to that effect.
I checked the Massey manual and all it says is "remove right hand tie rod from master arm" No details as to ho to go about it. Same thing with instructions on reassembly. Just says "install". So can one of you guys enlighten me on what holds the R/H rod in place. Last thing I want to do is go in there with a fork and hammer to seperate them and tear something up. What is the secret to getting it out and getting it reinstalled?

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Dan

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Masseynut(Australia)

05-14-2008 01:28:03




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 Re: M-F 65: Removing R/H Tie Rod from Master Arm in reply to dandzivi, 05-12-2008 19:07:40  
Glad that you had a win, cheers, Evan.



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dandzivi

05-13-2008 19:10:53




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 Re: M-F 65: Removing R/H Tie Rod from Master Arm in reply to dandzivi, 05-12-2008 19:07:40  
Thanks guys. Masseynut was right on the money. Hex base under the dust boot tapering up to the threaded portion. A little heat on the master arm and an open end wrench did the trick.

Thanks Again,
Dan



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Masseynut(Australia)

05-13-2008 02:23:19




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 Re: M-F 65: Removing R/H Tie Rod from Master Arm in reply to dandzivi, 05-12-2008 19:07:40  
Hi, Got a feeling the ball-joint screws into the end of the lower steering, or pitman arm, if I remember correctly, right hand thread. As David said, it will be on a taper, so you will need to remove the arm completely by removing the pinch bolt and sliding it off the drop shaft. It will be master-splined for easy reassembly. Once you have it off, you will see a hex section on the shank of the ball joint. You will need a snug fitting spanner on the hex. If it won't undo after striking it once or twice on the screwed in taper, don't force the spanner too hard, and round off the hex. Strike it again, or apply some heat to the arm, and re-try, see how you go, regards, Evan.

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DavidP, South Wales

05-13-2008 00:49:47




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 Re: M-F 65: Removing R/H Tie Rod from Master Arm in reply to dandzivi, 05-12-2008 19:07:40  
Hello Dan,
First of all you need the touch like a midwife and big muscles. It should only be the taper that is holding it. It would be adviseable to remove the lower arm and place it against a heavy metal block or similar and give the outside of the taper boss one good crack with a hammer. This will have the effect of "elengating" the boss for a split second and hopefully releasing the ball joint.
I do not like using a fork as it tends to wreck the rubber boot if it is to be reused.
If you want to try and drive the taper pin out make sure you have a nut on the end that is clear of the lower arm. A brave assiatant is useful to hold it while you hit it.
Cheers
David P, South Wales

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