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KY Greg

04-18-2008 04:57:03




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I just bought a MF35 without power steering.

The front wheels were backwards (wide) because it came off a hill farm. The steering was difficult but seemed tight. I turned the wheels around to normal. The steering seems fine at slow speed but at higher speed a slight turn of the steering wheel will cause a dramatic change of direction. Even a slight ridge in the roadway will cause the front wheels to move considerably. The steering seems tight and good while parked. Only about 1"-2" slop in the steering. The tie rod ends are fairly tight. The slop comes from the steering gearbox.

This does not seem like a normal worn out steering in an old tractor.

Is there a way to fix/adjust this or is the steering gearbox bad?

Thanks, Greg

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Brian Allen

04-18-2008 07:51:08




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 Re: 35 steering in reply to KY Greg, 04-18-2008 04:57:03  
Hi
Sounds like you need to adjust your toe in.
First thing to do is block the back wheels,(safety first) then check the wheel bearings on both front wheels, it is a good time to re-grease and adjust them. With that done you can align the front end.
You should have the front dimension of the front wheels up to 1/4" shorter dimension than the back dimension of the wheels.
Measure from inside to inside about 3 and 9 o'clock.
You will probably need help to do this.
You must move each drag link the same amount (if you make one side longer - you must make the other side the same amount shorter.
Post back.
Good luck Brian

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supergrumpy

04-18-2008 10:15:36




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 Re: 35 steering in reply to Brian Allen, 04-18-2008 07:51:08  
piece of cake to measure toe-in, use 4 beer cans and a straight piece of wood

afterwards you drink the beer



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Brian Allen

04-18-2008 10:41:56




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 Re: 35 steering in reply to supergrumpy, 04-18-2008 10:15:36  
I have the beer drinking down pat, but how do you use the beer cans to help doing the measurement?
I am always interested in a better way to do things. Beer is one of my favorite foods!
Brian



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supergrumpy

04-18-2008 11:34:20




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 Re: 35 steering in reply to Brian Allen, 04-18-2008 10:41:56  
geometry will foul you up unless you measure front and back at same height, beer cans ensure your measuring point is same

set 2 cans in front and 2 in back, lay the stick on top of the cans, use magic marker to take your first reading, move stick to other side of the tire and compare

stick has to be rigid or the sag will fool you, if tractor is skittish your tires are probably pointed out at the front, too close in front tends to plow and wear tires fast

you want some "toe-in" to allow for slop in steering mechanism, any wear in that long mechanism adds up fast

I was told that soda cans will work too but I've never actually seen that done

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Brian Allen

04-18-2008 19:36:22




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 Re: 35 steering in reply to supergrumpy, 04-18-2008 11:34:20  

Sounds like a great way to measure.
I bet the colder the cans are, the better they will work too!
Brian



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