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MF35 remote hydraulics

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Shawn Church

03-31-2008 08:33:53

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I just bought a 35 Deluxe (s/n 246601 so I suppose it's a late 1963). It has two hydraulic levers under the front edge of the seat. The left lever must be held back (via bungee cord, etc.) before the three point hydraulics will work. Since I've only worked with 8Ns and 9Ns in the past, I'm not familiar with remote hydraulics, but I'm pretty sure this is not right. I would appreciate any tips or insights into how this is supposed to work.

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lonestarjeff

04-04-2008 22:09:45

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Shawn Church, 03-31-2008 08:33:53

Shawn....does your valve look like this one:

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Shawn Church

04-09-2008 07:33:41

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to lonestarjeff, 04-04-2008 22:09:45

Mine has visible springs at the base of each lever around the shaft. It also has only the two rear ports rather than four.

I will try to post a picture of mine since that would help identify it. I've looked it over pretty closely, and there doesn't appear to be any visible detents, lock nuts, or any other adjustments to keep the levers in place.

Thanks,
Shawn

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henry J

03-31-2008 20:21:44

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Shawn Church, 03-31-2008 08:33:53

I use them on my to35 and they work togather depending on if you power up only or down only or release pressure to float. the left one on mine will go foward or back and it has a latch on the right side to lock it either in the back position or center. it has to be in the back position to use the 3point arms. henry

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Dean

03-31-2008 13:14:36

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Shawn Church, 03-31-2008 08:33:53

Shawn:

I had two MF-35s, one with a remote valve like you describe.

ON my 35, the left lever had a pin that dropped into place into one of two holes beneath the pin to lock it in place for either three point or remote operation.

Dean

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Shawn Church

04-02-2008 12:08:13

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Dean, 03-31-2008 13:14:36

Dean,

Thanks. I haven't noticed any holes in the lever, but I'll take another look. I'm sure there must be either something like this or possibly a detent internally which is supposed to lock it in place. The spring is pretty stiff, so a pin would seem more reliable.

Shawn

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135 Fan

03-31-2008 09:34:50

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Shawn Church, 03-31-2008 08:33:53

It's right. One lever (usually the left one) has to be pulled back for the 3 pt. controls beside the seat to work. The other lever has to be in the middle position. To use the other valve for aux. hydraulics, the left one has to be in neutral. They can't be used at the same time. Your left lever might be adjustable so it has a detent to keep it in place when pulled back. Look in the archives on here too. Dave

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Shawn Church

03-31-2008 10:28:21

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to 135 Fan, 03-31-2008 09:34:50

Thanks. The two levers are spring loaded, and I haven't felt any detents but I'll take a closer look. I'm not understanding what you mean by middle position. The spring pushes the levers all the way forward. I can pull either of them back, but they will immediately be pushed forward by the springs after I let go. Detents would make sense here.

I've searched the archives, but so far haven't found a description of how these are supposed to work. I ordered a MF-14 shop manual, but I don't yet have an owners manual (which probably covers this). I'll do some more searching.

Thanks again,
Shawn

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Gerald J.

03-31-2008 13:36:47

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Shawn Church, 03-31-2008 10:28:21

There's gotta be a forward position on the right hand valve. Else you couldn't return a cylinder once its run one way. And I think there is one on the left and that is where the detent is on MY remote valve. Detents middle and forward. Forward to run the three point with the original controls, back to lower the three point, middle to run the remotes. Right side has three positions. Forward to shove the remote cylinder one way. Middle to hold it, back to run it the other way.

Gerald J.

Remote discussion three weeks ago with a route to a manual

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Shawn Church

03-31-2008 14:40:04

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Gerald J., 03-31-2008 13:36:47

On mine, there are two levers under the seat which operate exactly the same way (I think, but I'll check again). They simply are sprung forward with no detectable detents. I can pull each of them backward, but they move back all the way forward as soon as I let go of the lever.

Thanks for the link. That discussion is for a 135, and since I'm new to these tractors I wasn't sure it pertained to my 35 Deluxe. You mentioned a third lever, which I don't seem to have. I'll check it all over tonight more carefully to see if I can find any detents.

Thanks,
Shawn

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Shawn Church

03-31-2008 16:43:42

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Shawn Church, 03-31-2008 14:40:04

I just checked the levers more closely (there are only two of them). They are not exactly the same, since the right lever can be moved back, center, and forward. Back and forward are against the spring, so center is the natural position. The left lever can only be moved back and returns to the center upright position. This one can't be pushed forward like the right lever.

I can find no sign or hint of any detents at all though. I might try and remove the whole assembly to see if I can see how the detent should work. Unfortunately, the MF-14 manual I bought doesn't seem to mention the remote hydraulic levers at all.

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135 Fan

03-31-2008 20:29:29

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Re: MF35 remote hydraulics in reply to Shawn Church, 03-31-2008 16:43:42

There are different valves that were used. To get the detent to work on my type of valve, you have to loosen the lock nut on the handle and thread the handle in more so the spring pushes on the detent ball more. Dave

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powerfarm

04-22-2008 08:16:26

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