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Another fuel in oil

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KY Greg

03-22-2008 07:09:28




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135 3 cyl Perkins diesel

The tractor had not been started in app. 3 months. I assume it was OK when parked. I had bailed about 500 square bales that day with it.
When I checked the oil the crankcase was full of diesel.
Got on this site and took you alls advice to change the lift pump.
I took apart the old one, just because, and could not see a crack or hole. The pump mades an "oink" should then hand operated.

Can the pump be bad even if I cannot find a hole?

Did I waste $45?

Is there a way to find out if it was the pump before flushing the crankcase and changing the oil filter?

I plan to put about 5 quarts of oil in it- run it for 15 minutes then change oil and filter again. Is this necessary?

What do you all recommend?
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I really enjoy this message board.

Anyone heard from Big Dean recently?

Thanks, Greg

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Don Snyder

03-23-2008 16:14:48




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 Re: Another fuel in oil in reply to KY Greg, 03-22-2008 07:09:28  
If your new fuel lift pump does not correct your problem it is most likley the seal in the injection pump. no need to flush the engine, just drain the oil take the filter off or out, which ever type filter is on yours,let it set with drain plug out till it stops dripping, install new filter and oil keep ckecking the oil level it may take a few or several hours to see if the oil level changes due to how bad the leak is, hope this helps you.

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DavidP, South Wales

03-22-2008 12:53:15




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 Re: Another fuel in oil in reply to KY Greg, 03-22-2008 07:09:28  
Hi,
Normally it is the lift pump that is the problem. You can check the old one by operating the lever and pulling your finger over the inlet side. You should feel the suction which should last for 10 seconds or so. One important thing to remember when reassembling lift pumps is that the lever must be in the 'down' position before tightening the cover. This centralizes the 'pull' on the diaphragm.
DavidP, South Wales

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chuck bergstrom

03-22-2008 07:26:35




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 Re: Another fuel in oil in reply to KY Greg, 03-22-2008 07:09:28  
Greg, After spending 40 years with the Perkins,
have to agree that 99 per cent of the time it is
the lift pump. Have known more than 1 new one to
be bad. If a new ends up to be bad it should be
covered by warr. Of course there is a chance it
could be the pump(small chance) Chuck



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j Heitkemper

03-22-2008 07:18:37




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 Re: Another fuel in oil in reply to KY Greg, 03-22-2008 07:09:28  
Could be the injector pummp dripping fuel in somehow ,the 800 Case I have here played that card on Me once ,, My300 Massey Combine has a trouble free 4 cyl. Perkins lugging it around .. Good Luck , Jim



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Wesley Stephens

03-23-2008 19:03:15




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 Re: Another fuel in oil in reply to j Heitkemper, 03-22-2008 07:18:37  
Be very careful when putting the lines back on the new pump. Some of the replacement ones are made of very sorry metal and crack very easily even if you don"t overtighten the lines. I had this happen a couple of years ago, but I was able to take the top off of the old one and use it.



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