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Rattle in hyd. 135

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Frema

02-13-2008 12:42:10




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Hello out there
It`s a well known fact, that the MFs are apt to rattle in the hyd. when under heavy lift. I just made a log splitter, and found that when in constant pumping the remotes won`t make it rattle, even not when blowing the safety valve. It seems as if the "controlvalve(s)" for the 3p. or so - is the problem. I have an original guide for the adjustments - done with the cover turned upside down. There may be one tool that I dont have, but should I try it out - the 3 p works great with the rattle, but could an adjustment remedy the rattle? I hope that Dean or DavidP will reply. It�s for the 135 UK 1974 sold in Denmark

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Frema.Dk.

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Frema

02-14-2008 10:45:16




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 Re: Rattle in hyd. 135 in reply to Frema, 02-13-2008 12:42:10  
Hello DavidP
I think you misunderstood me - I havent had the lid off yet. The guide I have is issued by the Danish importer and is dated 1969 and for 135 thru 178. The missing tool is a forklike gadget MF 270B used for locking the damper rod when loaded with a weight of 3 lbs. - it may be necessary with correct dimensions. There is another tool MF272 - a chamfered block with two dowels for the holes in the lid - probably to measure a distance of 17 mm from arm with the pushrod from the lifting piston and to the edge of lid - that I think may be easy to do otherwise.The other adjustments could be done with standard tools. I think that you know the guide from the UK, but I can`t find any original number or other things so that we could compare. The dowelpins didn`t show any wear.
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Frema.Dk.

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DavidP, South Wales

02-13-2008 15:44:24




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 Re: Rattle in hyd. 135 in reply to Frema, 02-13-2008 12:42:10  
Hello,
Welcome to the Rattle Club!
When the cover was removed did you check the condition of the pump dowel pins? Worn pins and or pump body will cause a rattle. It is essential to have the correct tools to carry out the adjustments with the cover removed and back in place....especially with a Pressure Control tractor. Which tool don't you have?
Outside of the usual cause of the rattle I think your problem may be related to the Final PC adjustment. Did you go through the procedure of using a gauge to adjust the knurled screw on the diaphragm to reduce the oscillations and stabilise the gauge needle?
DavidP, South Wales

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Wesley Stephens

02-13-2008 16:19:46




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 Re: Rattle in hyd. 135 in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 02-13-2008 15:44:24  
This is sort of related to the topic at hand, so maybe some of the posters in this thread can help. Our 1965 135 diesel is a solid tractor that seems to perform fine, but when you let off of the clutch in high multi-power, especially in the higher gears, there is a noise from the transmission that sounds like something taking up slack. I have also noticed it when driving across ridged up rows in a field after it has "coasted" a little and is starting to pull back up. It is much less or non-existent in low multi-power. Does anyone have an idea of what this is? Thanks in advance.

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Gerald J.

02-13-2008 17:31:07




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 Re: Rattle in hyd. 135 in reply to Wesley Stephens, 02-13-2008 16:19:46  
Thats the overrunning clutch in the multipower ratcheting into lock.

Gerald J.



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Wesley Stephens

02-16-2008 19:31:52




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 Re: Rattle in hyd. 135 in reply to Gerald J., 02-13-2008 17:31:07  
Is that something that I need to be concerned about? I don"t know a whole lot about multi-power systems.



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