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Steering Cylinder Piston Wear

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finsrn

02-05-2008 17:48:17




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I finally got my cylinder apart after making a mess that would make Pigpen from Charlie Brown proud. The manual says to look for excessive wear on the components. I was wondering what exactly that means? The piston shaft shows some wear but I'm not sure if it's excessive. Mainly the chrome is worn off of the shaft but you can't really feel much wear with your finger. Is this too much? I don't want this thing to leak again. The only thing that's leaking worse than this cylinder is my wallet (leaking money trying to fix it).

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DavidP, South Wales

02-06-2008 01:02:41




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 Re: Steering Cylinder Piston Wear in reply to finsrn, 02-05-2008 17:48:17  
Hello,
That's why we are here. We are very good at curing or at least minimising wallet leakages!!!
For the rod a small amount of wear on the chrome would be acceptable as long as the chrome has no pit marks or scoring on it and the chrome is not coming off anywhere. The piston ring can be checked in a worn part of the bore for the gap...so no problem there. However what is of major importance is the amount of wear present in the anchor pin hole at the end. You should have an unworn section at each end of the pin where it has been in the casting. Check this in the rod hole. ANY play would justify replacing the rod and pin. The system works by having a controlled amount of play to actuate the power steering. If this play is exceeded by wear at any point in the complete system you will start to loose assistance. Check also how much up and down movement is present when the rod is in the casting. If wear is present initial operation of the ram will move the rod up or down on the pin and loose power. Check also for wear in the adjusting barrel link pins and particularly for wear in the main vertical shaft and bushes. This can be seen by the shaft moving sideways a little before it starts to turn. Should you decide to replace the bushes, remember that they have to be reamed out in line to fit the shaft. There is an alternative way to do this if you want to know.
For the spool valve; as long as it is not loose in the housing and has no scores it should be OK. The yoke end is normally replaceable. If you have wear in the barrel pin holes they can be drilled out and very neat fitting pins or socket head bolts fitted. Make sure that they are a neat fit or you won't gain anything.
If you need any more help please come back.
DavidP, South Wales

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Steven, Avilla MO

02-06-2008 06:59:12




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 Re: Steering Cylinder Piston Wear in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 02-06-2008 01:02:41  
Wow, that piston is $165. Not sure I have what it takes to be a Massey man. I'm already $150 into the steering and there is no end in site. I think I might switch the 8N from under the blue tarp outside and move the Massey under it in it's place. For all it's faults, the old Ford sure is cheap to work on. At some point, you just have to cut your losses...



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DavidP, South Wales

02-06-2008 12:02:57




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 Re: Steering Cylinder Piston Wear in reply to Steven, Avilla MO, 02-06-2008 06:59:12  
Hi,
That must be an MF price. Rods are available in the UK for around �22 ($45) from Bepco and Sparex.
I think both have outlets in the States. Chech which type you have as there are at least two types. The main differnce is how the ring disc is fitted to the rod. Although similar there are several types of steering system fitted.
DavidP, South Wales



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Steven, Avilla MO

02-06-2008 12:37:27




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 Re: Steering Cylinder Piston Wear in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 02-06-2008 12:02:57  
David,

Thanks for your help.

I'm thinking that only the UK version of the 165 had the two piece piston and rod. I think the ones here have the piston and rod as one unit. I'm looking at part number 1027231M91.



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