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TomTex

12-07-2007 15:36:04




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Wondering if you read my post on how to stop CAV injection pump leaks on the top cover and around the throttle shaft and fuel shut-off shaft. Tom




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BigMarv1085

12-08-2007 18:55:29




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 Re: Big-Marv-1085 in reply to TomTex, 12-07-2007 15:36:04  
Hey Tom, haven't been on the site lately but I sure could use the information.



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TomTex

12-09-2007 05:59:34




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 Re: Big-Marv-1085 in reply to BigMarv1085, 12-08-2007 18:55:29  
Is your pump a CAV? If it is a CAV, I have been there done that. The CAV is prone to leaking around the throttle shaft and the cut-off shaft. First you will need to get 2 or 3 cans of engine cleaner. Clean, clean, and clean again the whole area. After each spraying, hose off, let dry and do it again. Cleaner the better, if you drop a ball of grease/dirt into the top while the cover is off - big trouble, one piece of crud dropped into the bottom of the pump will cost you about $600-700. Now using a paper towel, start looking for your leak; it will show up real easy on the dry, clean paper towel. 1. MOST important thing is to have some paper and pencil BEFORE you take off the cover.
2. Remove shut-off linkage and throttle linkage. 3. Remove screws or nuts holding lid on. 4. DO NOT just lift up the top. Lift it just a little, very carefully so you can peek under it. A spring is attached from the lid to the bottom part of the pump. One end of spring is hooked on a wide post looking like a tombstone. The tombstone has several holes in it. Write down which hole the spring is hooked in before you remove it. The other end is through one of the holes in the flattened end of the control rod. Again write down the hole it is in before you remove it. This step is VERY IMPORTANT. If the spring is not reassembled to EXACTLY the same holes on both ends, the tractor will never run right again. The same pump can be used on different model tractors with the only difference being how the spring is hooked. My MF dealer mechanic can tell the proper holes by using the 3 numbers on the CAV. Now remove the spring, and lift off the lid. 5. Write down the model/year of tractor, and the model of the CAV pump and serial number. There are 3 different numbers on my CAV pump.
6. Take the cover with you and head to MF dealer and purchase a new gasket and four (4) tiny o-rings that fit around the throttle shaft and the shut-off shaft. Each shaft has 2 o-rings. If the o-rings are not leaking now, they soon will so replace all of them. Total cost of gasket and 4 o-rings is about $5 or $6. 7. You will need a little patience and two extra hands to get the spring attached on both ends and the new gasket fitted. I did this complete procedure on my MF 690 and now it has NO LEAKS.
Tom

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KYfarm

12-07-2007 17:07:28




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 Re: Big-Marv-1085 in reply to TomTex, 12-07-2007 15:36:04  
I can tell ya, because I had the same leaks on my 1105 and a Ford 3600 that has the same CAV type pump.

The top cover has a simple gasket that costs about 3 bucks. The top cover comes right off after removing the nuts for the throttle and fuel shut-off, then two nuts holding on the top cover. Just make SURE that you note the hole the spring inside the top cover is mounted into because you need to remove the spring and then replace it after you have placed the new gasket under the top cover.

The posts for the throttle and the fuel shut-off each have two o-rings that need to be replaced and can be done while you have the top cover off and the nuts off of the throttle and shut-off.

Also, if you do this, buy the two gaskets (tiny little things, almost like the o-rings for the posts, but a different material) that go under the two nuts that hold the top cover down. If you do not replace these two gaskets but all the other stuff you will fix those leaks but have new ones (guess how I found this out).

Anyway, all gaskets and o-rings for the CAV pump you are referring (cover and posts) to should be under twenty bucks, I can't remember exactly but maybe way under twenty bucks and this is a repair that can be done by somebody with a moderate amount of mechanical skills and no special tools. Like I said, I've done it twice.

Oh yea, make sure that you clean any and all dirt and i mean all dirt from anywhere around and over the pump, because if a glob of dirt fall in the pump after the cover is off if is a different kind of problem.

Hope that helps..... .

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