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Ryan smith

11-21-2007 19:45:08

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hello, i have a 1962 mf 35 with the 3 cylinder diesel, i just put the spin on filter head(oil) on and pulled the strainer off the bottom of the pan and resealed it filled unit with oil, and filter with oil and it will not build oil pressure, i pulled strainer assembly off of pan and everything looks good there, does anyone have any suggestions, thanks in advance.
Ryan

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DavidP, South Wales

11-21-2007 23:51:35

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Re: 1962 massey 35 diesel in reply to Ryan smith, 11-21-2007 19:45:08

Hi,
Do I understand that you have replaced the filter attachment to a spin-on type? If so I assume that the gasket is correct and sealing. Filling the filter with oil is a good start. It is quite common on older tractors for the clip that secures the inlet pipe to the main bearing cap to break thus causing a hole in the pipe that will draw in air. You should be able to see this through the strainer hole. I also assume that the pump was in satisfactory condition before hand.
The next step would be to prime the engine. Remove the oil pressure pipe or plug from the rear LHS of the block. Use something like a syringe to inject as much oil as possible into the oil passage. When it appears to be full replace the pipe quickly and turn the engine over but do not allow it to start. Cranking speed should be quite adequate to build up oil pressure.
DavidO, South Wales

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oldhousehugger25

11-25-2007 15:41:37

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Re: 1962 massey 35 diesel in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 11-21-2007 23:51:35

I am rebiulding an A152 Perkins and I have it reassembeled to the point of getting a new oil pump because the old one is so sloppy it rattles.

Additionally the oil screen has been brazed onto the sump cover. As you stated the pick up tube bracket has broken off it's attachment point. (is it important to fabricate a new bracket or will it survive without it?)

The hole in the oil screen is quite a bit larger than the OD of the pick up tube. Was there some kind of seal or gasket which went there? The gasket set I got came with an 8 inch eight bolt gasket instead of the 7.25 inch six bolt gasket I need so I will use silicone and the old gasket after flattening out the cover.
If someone has a good blow up of the cover, screen, pickup tube parts, I'd appreciate a picture of it.

Also when I disassembled the engine oil filter canister on this Perkins I noticed that the small round plate which seals the bottom of the filter and applies spring pressure to the filter unit was missing. This basically made the filter pointless, so I made a new one.

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Ryan smith

11-22-2007 05:29:28

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Re: 1962 massey 35 diesel in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 11-21-2007 23:51:35

yes, i updated the oil filter head assembly, and the strainer on the bottom of the oil pan i pulled off to install a new gasket, and the pickup tube looks good, im just wondering if the oil pump lost it prime because it sat a few days with the strainer off to allow the oil to drain out.

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DavidP, South Wales

11-22-2007 05:49:14

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Re: 1962 massey 35 diesel in reply to Ryan smith, 11-22-2007 05:29:28

Hi, it should not really make any difference as oil will remain in the pump so that the trochoidal gears remain 'wet' and should be able to draw oil up at initial turnover.
DavidP, South Wales

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Ryan smith

11-22-2007 08:32:17

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Re: 1962 massey 35 diesel in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 11-22-2007 05:49:14

i dont know what else to do

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DavidP, South Wales

11-22-2007 08:50:18

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Re: 1962 massey 35 diesel in reply to Ryan smith, 11-22-2007 08:32:17

Hello again,
Make sure that there is enough room between the end of the oil pipe and strainer to allow oil to enter. Normally the ends are tapered.
I would not want to think about taking the sump off yet. Try and connect a pipe and plastic bottle that will allow you to inject some oil into the oil pipe fitting at the end of the block.
If this fails then sump removal is a possibliity.
DavidP, South Wales

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Ryan smith

11-22-2007 09:36:46

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Re: 1962 massey 35 diesel in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 11-22-2007 08:50:18

thanks again for your reply, yeah the end is tapered on the pick up tube, and i just pulled the screen off to replace the gaskt i had good oil pressure, but i have to get a new gasket for the strainer before i can go any further.

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