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Hal3

10-19-2007 00:58:16




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I have just bought an MF 135. All seems good except the 3 point linkage arms are stuck in the up position. Do not respond to moving control lever up or down. There is an auxilary hydraulics control on top of transmission that has 3 positions it can be put in. Previous owner said hydraulics worked OK.




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Gerald J.

10-19-2007 12:21:12




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 Re: Ferguson 135 in reply to Hal3, 10-19-2007 00:58:16  
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If its like mine, there are three levers in front of the seat. The left one controls the three point. Not as said below, though. The left lever pulled back lowers the three point. In the middle position it locks the three point. Pushed forward, if both the original right hand controls (position and draft) are full up it lifts the three point. If latched foward it lets the three point be controlled by the draft and position levers on the right.

The draft and position levers control the three point by controlling the pump and when the feedback from the three point says the control is satisfied, the pump is shut off.

To run remotes its necessary that the pump be made to run by putting the position and draft levers full up (constant pumping position). The transmission oil heats less rapidly when the pump is not pumping constantly.

The right had two auxiliary valves in front of the seat run remotes, which could be a loader or planter or other implement.

I've been using this 135 for 20 years and I'm certain I've described how it works accurately.

Gerald J.

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135 Fan

10-19-2007 16:52:46




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 Re: Ferguson 135 in reply to Gerald J., 10-19-2007 12:21:12  
My tractor has factory remotes on it and I described how it works. It also matches the description of how it's supposed to work. Have had the tractor since about 1980. I'm pretty sure I know how everything works after using it and fixing it for close to 30 years. There are a multitude of different aux. valves and hook ups however. That's why I asked what kind of valve he had. There wasn't enough info in the original post to accurately describe how "his" system is supposed to work. I just described how mine works. Dave

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135 Fan

10-19-2007 10:18:14




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 Re: Ferguson 135 in reply to Hal3, 10-19-2007 00:58:16  
What type of aux. control do you have? Does it have 2 levers? If so the inner one is for the 3 pt. It has to be pulled back and then the regular 3 pt. controls will work. The other one has to be in the middle (neutral) position. If the 3 pt. controls on the side are both pushed down the lift arms can be dropped by pushing the aux. lever to the forward position as well as the rearward position. Some people use the lever by the seat to use the 3 pt. but it is much better to lock the lever back and use the side controls. The pump will keep the implement at the height you set without creeping. Using the seat lever doesn't let the pump keep the 3 pt. at the set height. Basically if all controls are pushed forward the 3 pt. should go down. If it doesn't you need to look at something else being wrong. Most lift arms will creep down over a period of several hours. Dave

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DavidP, South Wales

10-19-2007 03:59:14




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 Re: Ferguson 135 in reply to Hal3, 10-19-2007 00:58:16  
Hi,
First of all look at the control by your right heel as you sit on the tractor. Make sure its in the 'fast' position.
Seems more likely that the the isolating valve which in effect will lock the 3-pt linkage up is in the wrong position. The central position should you operation of the the three point and everything should be ok. Ensure the the control lever is at the bottom of the POSITION quadrant and not in PRESSURE CONTROL if you have it fitted.
DavidP

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chuck t

10-19-2007 05:51:03




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 Re: Ferguson 135 in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 10-19-2007 03:59:14  
David - I had some work done on my 202. After the repair the lift arms did not go quite as high as previously. It lifts fine, just not as high. I think the guy did not set the height adjustment properly. There is a small metal block that keeps the lever from going into the CONSTANT PUMPING part of the quadrant. If I move the lever up to the CONSTANT PUMPING setting it will lift higher. Is it OK to do this?

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DavidP, South Wales

10-19-2007 08:47:12




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 Re: Ferguson 135 in reply to chuck t, 10-19-2007 05:51:03  
Hello Chuck,
The simple answer is 'NO'.
The lift arms must NOT be allowed to lift to the end of their travel.
The reason for this is that at the end of travel the ram arm under the hydraulic cover will make contact with the casing and will maintain pressure on it. When adjusted correctly the hydraulic system must be in neutral at very close to maximum lift. This is normally achieved by setting the control lever at max lift but without blowing the relief valve. The lever is set back about 1/4 inch and the stop moved to it. By fine adjustment you may gain a little but the arms MUST have room to lift a little further by hand.
If yours are not lifting as high as you think they should check the condition of the balls and pins under the axle, the pins or bushes at the bottom of the lift rods and your lift rod adjustment if you have an adjustable one on the left hand side.
Cheers
DavidP, South Wales

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