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Massey 44 cracked frame repair

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LB

11-05-2000 13:34:22




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I have a 44 4cyl with cracks on both sides of the frame. They are back where the frame bolts to the rear end. They each start at the base of the flange for the top bolt and run down about halfway and get a little closer to the edge of back edge of the frame. The outside was welded once but has broken free. The inside was not welded. What are some tips you can give me to weld this? Like what rod and what procedures? I have an arc welder and a torch. I thought about separating the tractor and drilling 2 or 3 holes in from the end and countersinking some bolts in. I thought that would help strengthen the peice that is almost broke off and then weld the outside of the crack also. I've had a 30 and a 44-6 and both of them had cracked frames but closer to the engine. Are Masseys known for cracked frames? I'd like to fix it cause it has live power and hydraulics and runs pretty good yet. Thanks for any help. LB

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BlueLight

11-06-2000 11:08:10




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 Re: Massey 44 cracked frame repair in reply to LB, 11-05-2000 13:34:22  
Dad had an internationl with cracked case
same as you and it was welded Ok. He bought it
that way and we never had any problem. These usually occur when someone trys to pull from a
higher point than designed pull point. The result
is a tractor rendition of "hi Ho silver, away". I welded cast iron pulley many years ago
and I admit I didn't do a great job. I think
with a little practice before hand I would have
done alright. I'm excellent on steel though. I have my welding book with me and it says
"...gray iron to be repaired with fusion or brazing. Part must be pre-heated locally for brazing. You can use machinable or non-machinable electrodes for welding. Use nickel-copper alloy
rods." I wouldn't recommend brazing as this is
a high stress area. I'll quote on procedure for the welding rod: "All positions. Preheating desirable but not necessary. Ampere setting lower than normal. Use short intermittent beads, hold moderatly long arc. Anneal bead by overlaying with second bead. Surface being welded must first be ground"
The last sentence probably explains why it failed. I would add to break and clear slag between passes. I always grind to V if what I'm welding is thick. No small feat when your casting is 2In thick. But get yourself a few wheels or cutting disk and do it anyway, and preheat anyway even if it's just a few hundred degrees. The book doesn't give an AWS number for the rod but your supplier can probably tell you. You might want to keep the both halves (rear
case portion and front housing) bolted
lightly together if it's possible just in case of
distortion to ensure holes will line up and keep spacing tolerances for driveshaft. It may be difficult to squeeze crack closed. Sorry for the length of this narration.

Qotes courtesy: Arc Welding Lessons for School & Farm (the James F Lincoln Arc Welding Foundation) 1950

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