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Massey 165 hydraulics - PTO

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Richard Preston

09-11-2007 18:44:25




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I am having some problems and if you have any insights it would be appreciated. I have a Massey 165 diesel, multi power and independent PTO. The problems started when baling a year ago. A knocking developed that was there when idling and all tractor operations. We split the tractor at the transmission and ran the engine separately, no knocking. Took the hydraulic pumps out but could not determine a problem, they all rotated freely with no tight spots. Put the tractor together again and the knock is still present. Just recently while doing some PTO work ( stalk shredder) the multipower quit working and the independent PTO slips under light load and will completely stop. The knocking noise is still present. We checked the hydraulic pressure at the side plate on the transmission,
zero pressure, we checked at the bell housing for the multi power control valve and had zero pressure. We checked at the rear remotes and only had 250 pounds pressure. While checking the pressure at the rear remotes you could feel a vibration while holding the pressure gauge which coincided with the knocking sound. There also was a slight pressure variation which also co-insided with the knocking sound. If you have any ideals or suggestions they will be appreciated.
Richard

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DavidP, South Wales

09-12-2007 01:11:14




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 Re: Massey 165 hydraulics - PTO in reply to Richard Preston, 09-11-2007 18:44:25  
Hello Richard,
Interesting problem. When you had the system stripped did you check the condition of the Ferguson pump dowel pins and the dowel pin in the left side cover that supports the IPTO valve and their corresponding dowel holes?
I think that the knocking may be down to excessive movement of the Ferguson or auxillary pump. The aux pump could also be loose on the Ferguson pump. This movement may have cracked the pipe that feeds the IPTO and possibly the Multi-Power resulting in intermittent and reduced operation.
If you remove the right side cover you should be able to reach in and check for any excessive movement of the pumps.
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DavidP, South Wales

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Richard Preston

09-12-2007 06:49:46




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 Re: Massey 165 hydraulics - PTO in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 09-12-2007 01:11:14  
David:

Thanks for the reply, it will certainly help
Richard



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