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165 & 65 parts interchange ?

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08-31-2007 14:58:34

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Picked up a couple of MF's (both in pretty ordinary condition) recently. My objective is to restore one of them (or perhaps both long term) for functional farm duties. The 65 is a mark II has powersteer & multi power. Engine has suffered at the hands of the most bodge workmanship I have stumbled across & as a result the block has been damaged by a sleeve being able to move & hammered the top locating groove for the sleeve a considerable amount. tricky to get repaired ..... unsure if it can be properly fixed at all at this point.
The 165 appears to be a later version it has the 212 engine (which seems ok, will have running later today I hope), other than that, except for the addition of a foot throttle its pretty much what I call a poverty pack. No powersteer, no mutipower. What I'm considering doing is stealing the P/S & complete back end from the 65 & attach it all to the 165 ..... ..... .. what I was wondering is how interchange=able all this is..... I was always under the impression the 165 was just a MK II 65 with more modern sheet metal, but I hit snag number 1 when I realised the power steering pump is a completely different animal to start with.
Thought I should ask a few more questions before I dive in head first.

Thanks in advance.

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09-01-2007 14:41:01

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 Re: 165 65 parts interchange ? in reply to Ralf from MI, 08-31-2007 14:58:34  

Bob N.Y. said: (quoted from post at 23:59:26 09/01/07) Without going into a lot of detail, I think you would run into more complications than it is worth.

After looking at it a little closer I see what you are saying, there's no simple fix. Looks like if I'm determined to fit P/S I'd best off source a unit to suite this model.
On another note the trans trans seem very quite & smooth. At a quick run through the ratios feel like they'll be fine for what the tractor will be doing. So the gearbox gets to stat as well.
This is good news for the 65 which I was just going to use as a parts mule, no way I'm going to let it sit & rot with multi power & P/S already fitted. when I'm finished the 165 I'll start looking to source an engine block I guess.

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09-01-2007 04:47:32

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 Re: 165 65 parts interchange ? in reply to Michael Talbot, 08-31-2007 14:58:34  
That's not wasn't what I was wanting to hear, but thank you very much for the heads up.
I went an did as you suggested & am down right depressed, your dead right nearly nothing in that area is the same. Is it still possible to convert the 165 to P/S with any of the bits from the 65 ?
Would it be possible to switch the entire front bolster & would the later type top arm fit the idler shaft to hook back up to the lower mounted steering relay rod of the 165.

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09-01-2007 05:59:26

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 Re: 165 65 parts interchange ? in reply to hobbyfarmer, 09-01-2007 04:47:32  
Without going into a lot of detail, I think you would run into more complications than it is worth.

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08-31-2007 17:50:20

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 Re: 165 65 parts interchange ? in reply to hobbyfarmer, 08-31-2007 14:58:34  
Take a close look at the 2 tractors side by side. You will notice that the front bolster, front axle and the steering box are all different.

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