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MF 65 steering problems

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Keith Sanford

07-23-2007 00:36:58




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I have a 1960 MF65 and have steering problems. It will turn one way great but then not the other way. I adjust it and it goes the other way. So I need to re-bush it to get the slop out of it. My problem is I have it all unbolted but can�t the shaft out of the tall piece (the right of the cylinder or what the right end of the cylinder is connected to). The shaft goes all the way to the under side of what the thing bolts to (flat part of the front end) and has a spline on it. This part attaches to a part that goes up and over the axel to the other steering part. Can anyone tell me how to get this apart so I can pull it out to have the whole thing re-bushed?
Keith

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TomTex

07-23-2007 08:42:38




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 Re: MF 65 steering problems in reply to Keith Sanford, 07-23-2007 00:36:58  
Sounds exactly like my MF690, on which I changed the upper and lower bushings that are on that shaft that goes through the bolster. Take the lower arm off. Take the top piece off. On the MF 690 the shaft would only come out one way; as best I remember out the top. I did not remove the bolster from the tractor. First off you need real MF Repair Manual and MF Parts Manual to make the job much easier.
1. after removal of the shaft as above, use a small chisel and cut/crush the thin bronze bushing in and remove.
2. Clean, clean, clean the bushing seating areas; then lub with thin oil completely with your finger.
3. Get a long piece of 3/4 inch all thread, put 2 nuts on one end and tighten the nuts together to "jam". Get heavy washers for both ends that will fit on the top lip of the bushings. Oil the all-thread really well to prevent galding. You are now going to use this to "pull" one bushing at time into the bolster seats. Use only new grade 5 or grade 8 nuts and make sure that they will hand-thread all the way without friction. You are going to need to use ratchet and deep socket on one end and box-end on the other; two people are needed: one working top and one working bottom.
4. Place bushings in freezer overnight. Remove one bushing from freezer and put into crushed ice in ice chest to transprot to shop.
5. It would even help if you could lightly preheat the bolster, but I did not preheat.
6. I seated the bushing without trouble using the above method.
7. Also you should freeze the spotlessly cleaned main shaft overnight. After the bushing are in place, oil the inside real good with your finger. Transport the shaft from freezer to shop in crushed ice, remove and quickly oil coat it. Lightly tap in with hammer. It was not hard to insert on my MF690.
8. Re-hook up everything bottom and top, and enjoy factory tight steering; my tractor steers like it left the factory.
9. It should be noted that the bushing were "pre-fitted" type bushings; in other words no custom maching out the bushing were necessary. Be sure to measure or try your bushing on the shaft a little bit to tell if pre-fit type. Also check the shaft real good to make sure it has not been ruined as mine was, and it cost over $200 for the shaft, so don't put off the bushing replacement too long.
Tom

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Keith Sanford

08-02-2007 08:26:33




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 Re: MF 65 steering problems in reply to TomTex, 07-23-2007 08:42:38  
Thank you all for your reply's I have finaly gotten it off the tractor. It was a pain but it came out of the bolster hard. I had the weight of the tractor on it and it still did not want to move but I won out and got it off.



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Chuck Bergstrom

07-23-2007 08:26:31




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 Re: MF 65 steering problems in reply to Keith Sanford, 07-23-2007 00:36:58  
Keith, Maybe you are doing more than you need. As
a temporary measure maybe you can adjust a little
less. Experiment with a tiny bit of adj. Better
yet replace the adjust. turnbuckle pins and yokes.
To save time and expense it may be easier to drill
out and rpl with a slightly oversize pin. Just a
few tips from the past. Chuck



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Our Farmer

07-23-2007 05:34:45




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 Re: MF 65 steering problems in reply to Keith Sanford, 07-23-2007 00:36:58  
If I recall you need to remove the pedestal assy and press the shaft out with a hydraulic press.



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