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Trying out a MF 180

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Puffie40

07-15-2007 15:38:09




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All of this haying we are doing is proving that a second tractor could help speed up production - One of us could be baling and the other gathering the bales, or mowing and raking, or discing and seeding/fertilizing.

Our neighbor is offering us his Massey Ferguson 180 that he no longer uses- it's too big for his uses- He is loaning it to us to see if we like it.

It has a perkins 4-cylinder diesel, two stage clutch and Multipower, and has aprox. 8800 hours on it. It is in fairly decent shape considering it spent most of it's time outside.

Our first "Work test" in baling the last of our hay is pretty positive. It's got lots of power, and the PTO seems to work okay. We'll hook up our big CaseIH 14' disc to it and see how well it pulls it.

My (Mechanical) observations with it are:

-Engine starts fine. Occasionally likes a puff of either when starting. Smokes (light blue) a little.
-Engine does have an oil leak that seems to originate from head gasket.
-Transmission is a little noisy when moving.
-Brakes are hard to push. You need to really lean on them to get good braking power
-Fenders have a bit of corrosion on them. Seat suspension needs work (Gas shock is toast). Seat cushions - What seat cushions? -One rear tire is new; other one must have spent a lot of time on pavement.


The questions I have to ask you guys is:


Anybody have expiriences with the 180? what do you think?

What's a good test for the transmission and the Multipower? Discing sounds like a good test, but are there any others?

How does the multipower work, and how can I test it? What problem symptoms should I look for?

Any other suggestions for work tests I can try out on this guy?

There is a foot pedal on the right hand side of the operator's platform, near the seat. What does it do? I'm assuming it's a differential lock, but I can't get the pedal to move.

Is there a good MF Forum that you guys can recommend?

Thanks!

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Jbdyer

07-17-2007 18:28:34




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 Re: Trying out a MF 180 in reply to Puffie40, 07-15-2007 15:38:09  
If he will let you try it out for a while that sounds like a deal to me. I"ve had a 180 for 13 years. Had a little trouble with the hydraulic pump, power steering and now needs a clutch. They are easy to work on, parts are reasonable and plentiful. I"d rather not have one with a multipower, but mine hasn"t given me much problem. I like sitting up high up out of the dust too. I"ve put about 3000 hours on mine. Good tractor in general.

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brianriver

07-16-2007 09:05:40




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 Re: Trying out a MF 180 in reply to Puffie40, 07-15-2007 15:38:09  
Starting on ether is a sign of lower compression or poor fuel injection system. Can still use the tractor, but use spray sparingly to prevent piston ring landing damage. Another way to check multipower is it's hill hold feature. On tractors that have good brakes you can find a small hill and with the transmission in a forward gear, coast back slowly in low multipower with the clutch pushed in. As the tractor starts gaining a small amount of momnetum, flip the multipower to high with the clutch still pushed in. It should stop the tractor relatively quickly and hold it there. Releasing multipower will allow it to coast again as long as clutch is disengaged. This is not the safest way, but it is an effective way if not load is available to you and as long as throtle speed is keep to a low speed to prevent overtruning tractor, killing engine or loosing control with poor brakes.

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Don-Wi

07-15-2007 21:54:59




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 Re: Trying out a MF 180 in reply to Puffie40, 07-15-2007 15:38:09  
We've got a 165 and a 285, both are pretty good models. I'd say the brakes on the 180 would need osme attention, probably glazed over but to get to them you need to remove the axel trumpets- best left to a pro for that one, they're heavy and you need the right equipment to handle them.

The multipower should give a good, hard jerk when you engage it. If it feels soft, it may be a dirty filter/oil, or it could need some attention. A heavy load like a disk would be a good way to expose any problems with the multi-power.

I'm sure you can get a new shock for the seat, and you can definately find new cushions from more than 1 source, or you could buy a new seat from TSC and call it good enough.

That pedal is the diff lock, but if it's been outside alot or never got used much, it's more than likely rusted tight. OUr 165's is very loose but we rarely need it on our 285, so it's awful stiff. We need to pry that one back up if we do step on it.

The transmissions can make a bit of noise, and I know our 285 does have a bit of a whine, especially in 3rd. It's always been this way. whines more with the MP in High if I remember right.

As far as forums for Mf, you're on the best one there is!!

Donovan from Wisconsin

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jogl

07-16-2007 03:38:38




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 Re: Trying out a MF 180 in reply to Don-Wi, 07-15-2007 21:54:59  
When you have the "trumpets" off to fix the brakes is the time to loosen up the differential lock. DO NOT step on it now as it will then be stuck engaged. It has a dry shaft that goes through a bore in the trumpet that has rusted.

JP.



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