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G Campbell

06-05-2007 14:27:49




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I just bought a 1966 MF 135 from a dealer yesterday in pretty good shape. It has multipower on it, of which I am not familiar. I just ordered 2 manuals on this model tractor, but thought maybe someone could give me some insight on this.




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Don-Wi

06-07-2007 10:58:22




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to G Campbell, 06-05-2007 14:27:49  
Thought I'd add my .02- For starting out on the road, 3rd gear is just too high to get rolling without slipping the clutch. ONe both our 165 and 285 i start out in 2nd, either MP high or low, then I start up shifting. 2nd to 3rd really isn't bad, it hardly grinds when I shift.

NO way am I gonna start out in road gear, I don't like doing it with our Oliver 1855 either cause you can hear the clutch slipping- Gotta slip the clutch a little when shifting from 5th to 6th gear to get it in. Quite a bit more gear grinding if you don't get it in right away.

If you don't have a load, starting out in 3rd gear shouldn't be a problem but if pulling a load, there's almost no way you'll get rolling too easily starting out in 3rd gear. start in 2nd and shift up when full rpm's are reached.

I agree with the others on the MP- I just use it as another speed. never try to run it in one or the other, just whatever works for the operation. it is nice to be able to pull it back when getting in a heavy pull.


Donovan from Wisconsin

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Don-Wi

06-07-2007 10:58:17




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to G Campbell, 06-05-2007 14:27:49  
Thought I'd add my .02- For starting out on the road, 3rd gear is just too high to get rolling without slipping the clutch. ONe both our 165 and 285 i start out in 2nd, either MP high or low, then I start up shifting. 2nd to 3rd really isn't bad, it hardly grinds when I shift.

NO way am I gonna start out in road gear, I don't like doing it with our Oliver 1855 either cause you can hear the clutch slipping- Gotta slip the clutch a little when shifting from 5th to 6th gear to get it in. Quite a bit more gear grinding if you don't get it in right away.

If you don't have a load, starting out in 3rd gear shouldn't be a problem but if pulling a load, there's almost no way you'll get rolling too easily starting out in 3rd gear. start in 2nd and shift up when full rpm's are reached.

I agree with the others on the MP- I just use it as another speed. never try to run it in one or the other, just whatever works for the operation. it is nice to be able to pull it back when getting in a heavy pull.


Donovan from Wisconsin

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baccerfarmer2

06-07-2007 08:27:29




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to G Campbell, 06-05-2007 14:27:49  
I have a massey 275 with multipower and I use it a lot when plowing. I use rolling cultivators that work well in high speeds. I shift to low when turning around at the ends when I get back straight I put it back to high. The tractor doesn't seem to do well however when it is in high if it is under a lot of stress. When driving down the road I usually start in 3 high low multipower, get wound up, mash the clutch,(optional)and slip it into high. There seems to be less jerking that way which must be better for the parts. Hope you can use this,

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G Campbell

06-07-2007 09:20:11




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to baccerfarmer2, 06-07-2007 08:27:29  
Thanks baccerfarmer2. Is that baccer as in tobaccy?, as my grandapa used to say.



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Gerald J.

06-05-2007 17:02:09




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to G Campbell, 06-05-2007 14:27:49  
Multipower lets you shift it on the go though it may be better for longevity to not make that plowing load. Its a splitter that inserts a gear between those of the other two transmissions. I used the multipower a lot last week spraying, starting in multipower low and then shifting to high to get to my 8 mph speed with less clutch slipping. Then when I got to thick and obnoxious weeds I dropped down to give the weeds (constant pressure) a stronger dose.

The tractor free wheels in multipower low so it can get loose going down hill, but has a hill holder function so it won't roll backwards down the hill. Since it takes hydraulic pressure from the multipower pump that only runs when the engine runs, you can't pull start the tractor.

Shifting the other gearshifts is always easier in multipower low.

Gerald J.

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G Campbell

06-05-2007 17:42:07




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to Gerald J., 06-05-2007 17:02:09  
Thanks Gerald, that is good info. I really appreciate it. Do you know if there is instruction on how to use this in the operators manual? Do you normally use yours in low for normal use? How about plowing? I am a retired small rural town dweller, but visit our family farm and have requests to plow gardens in my neighborhood.



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baccerfarmer2

06-07-2007 18:30:19




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to G Campbell, 06-05-2007 17:42:07  
thats the one tobacco, baccer, baccy, whatever all the same good luck with the massey



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Gerald J.

06-05-2007 19:22:04




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to G Campbell, 06-05-2007 17:42:07  
It is covered in the operator's manual. these days I'm using the MF-135 for planting while fertilizing or for crop spraying and ground speed is important to apply the chemical (constant pressure electric sprayer) at the rate I want. So I use any gear with high or low multipower that gets me the ground speed I need at an engine speed I'm willing to work with. I planted at 4 mph, and I started spraying at 10 mph but that was too fast for good control with a very light front end (from three point sprayer) so after the first tank I mixed for 8 mph. Then I used high range on the transmission first gear and multipower low to start and shifted to high to keep on going until I got in weeds that deserved a stronger dose, then I shifted back to multiplower low for the duration of the weeds. I was running about 1600 RPM on the tachometer.

There is a decal on the inside of the right fender that shows the speeds for engine speeds from 1500 to 2000 rpm for all 12 speeds forward.

You can't shift the transmission's other gears on the go, they aren't synchronized, but are truly sliding gears, but you can shift the multipower on the go.

I don't plow now and the last I plowed was with a bigger tractor but when I did plow with the 135 I ran it full throttle in the fastest gear if would pull the plow in good ground. When I got into damp ground where it pulled harder or going uphill, I shifted down with the multipower if I was otherwise in multipower high.

When running the tractor on the road, I'll start out with high range, third gear, multipower low and that will start a fair load and then accelerate it up to maybe 16 mph. Then to be easier on the multipower clutch, I'll back off on the throttle (which doesn't slow the tractor instantly because of the overrunning feature of the multipower) and then shift the multipower up and then goose the throttle to get up to about 22 mph.

I do believe that the transmission front seal or the multipower valve leaks more in high multipower than in low and I know that is where the hydraulic pressure is high, but I use the gear selection out of the 12 to do the job I want done at the speed I want it done, so long as the tractor will pull the implement and itself.

Plowing gardens you will probably keep the speed down under 3 mph because its only 50 feet between fences. I generally plowed at 4 to 5 mph because I had 23 acres to plow and doing that with two bottoms took several days. My limit proved each spring to be what torque the clutch could hold and eventually I'd have to drop a gear to keep the clutch from slipping. My main field is about 1000 x 1100 feet so I could stay that fast for quite a while.

I just treat it as a tractor with 12 speeds forward and 4 reverse and use what gets the job done. That tractor has three gear shifts, two on the transmission and one on the dash. Mine has 5 hydraulic levers too, two brake pedals and a double clutch, plus a gear shift for the PTO. When I add a planter monitor and sprayer controls, it gets to be a lot of things to flip at the end of the row... But it did a good job planting. I'm having troubles with the spraying, its rained too well and some places I needed levitation as the only way to get through without planting the tractor and planter.

The fastest reverse speed is surprisingly fast, be careful.

Gerald J.

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G Campbell

06-07-2007 07:07:09




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 Re: multipower transmission in reply to Gerald J., 06-05-2007 19:22:04  
Thanks again Gerald. You have been very helpful and I appreciate it. I will pick up the tractor Monday, so I will check it out more. I may have additional questions.



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