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gonefishing

05-23-2007 04:52:34




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I was jacking up the front of my tractor the otherday to take off the front wheels for some new tires and noticed the unit that floats up and down (pivets) that the wheels are mounted to has a little play back and forth, maybe a little less that a qurter inch. Should that be there? If not is this a major job to fix?




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DavidP, South Wales

05-23-2007 08:57:29




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 Re: front of tractor in reply to gonefishing, 05-23-2007 04:52:34  
Hi,
What tractor is it? Are you referring to the up and down in the king pin? Or is it side to side movement at the bottom of the axle housing? When the tractor is let down does this gap appear at the top.
DavidP, South Wales



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gone fishing

05-23-2007 12:54:25




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 Re: front of tractor in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-23-2007 08:57:29  
It is the king pin. The whole assembly floats properly up and down( left wheel up, right wheel down), it just has a small amount of movement if you push it back and forth. Im just wondering if a small amount of play is normal, it's about a quarter of inch. The tractor is a 231 massey ferguson series.



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DavidP, South Wales

05-24-2007 00:59:22




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 Re: front of tractor in reply to gone fishing, 05-23-2007 12:54:25  
Hi, still not quite clear on where your movement is.
Is the movement at the bottom of the kingpin suggesting worn bushes and/or kingpin?
Is there movement up and down in the KP giving you a gap at the top when the tractor is on the ground?
Or is there forward and backward endfloat on the axle pivot?
Is the axle sloppy on its pin and bushes?
DavidP



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gone fishing

05-24-2007 04:16:17




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 Re: front of tractor in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-24-2007 00:59:22  
First.... Thank you for your time on this, Im still a little new to tractors and the parts on them. Ok... the front of tractor is jacked up with no wheeles on it right now, I can take hold of the assembly that runs from the left side of tractor to the right side and is connected to the frame that has a pin in the center of tractor( pivots) right in front bottom of fan on engine. My question is if I hold the assembly let's say on the left side of tractor around where the power steering shock is, I can wiggle the assembly back and forth about of a quarter of inch of play. I do understand the assembly needs to float up and down a foot or so, and it does. It's just that quarter inch or so of play back and forth that concerns me. If this is wear what do you do? And how much trouble is it to fix?

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DavidP, South Wales

05-24-2007 06:36:10




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 Re: front of tractor in reply to gone fishing, 05-24-2007 04:16:17  
Hello again,
Think we are getting somewhere. I believe that you have the same axle types in North America. If you have a 'swept' axle (centre beam bent) then some movement is not a problem, it may be in the bolts at the front end of the radius arms (forks). There is normally only one bush fitted with this type as the geometry requires a degree of movement. A worn bush here will make the steering heavy (non-PAS_ and increase tyre wear.
If you have a straight axle then there are bushes front and back in the beam. Excessive wear here I suspect has been caused by lack of greasing. Later ones have a pipe fitted but earlier oned you have to reach in with the grease gun. A previous owner may not have known about the greasing points.
I would consider the wear to be excessive and require urgent attention. It is quite possible that it will affect the power steering and certainly cause tyre wear.
It is a straight forward job but will require the removal of the centre beam and ideally a press to push the new bushes in as well as a new pin. Check that the grease passages are clean.
Regards
DavidP

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gonefishing

05-24-2007 08:35:35




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 Re: front of tractor in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-24-2007 06:36:10  
Thank you again. do you have a email that I can send a picture of the tractor to help me determine which axel I have.

Thank's again



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DavidP, South Wales

05-24-2007 11:16:14




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 Re: front of tractor in reply to gonefishing, 05-24-2007 08:35:35  
Hello,
[email protected]

David



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