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285 tach drive help

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Don-Wi

04-20-2007 22:25:57




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Today after I got home from school we went down to the dealer to pick up our 285 after getting an overhaul done. First thing I noticed when we started it up is that the tach wasn't working. I fooled aroudn with it for a good 1/2 hour in the lot yet, getting help from the guys there even though it was going past 5 and it was a really beautiful day.

Seems that when the cable is shoved too far from the tach side, the cable won't drive, but if it's pulled out a little bit it'll spin. The cable is good, we replaced it a couple years ago and I remember having the same trouble, but I got it after fooling around with it for a little while and it's worked since.

Once I got home I pulled off the alternator because it needs to be checked out anyway, and started at it again, looking at the tach drive and everything. The peice the cable screws onto by the engine easily pulled out of the rest of the body, making me use 2 pair of pliers to get the cable nut off the peice.

The gears seem to be fine, and when I stick just that end of the gear onto the cable it has no trouble engaging with the cable and no slipping of any kind at any depth of insertion into the drive. I put the drive gear back in without the restof the housing peice and tunred it agains the gear coming out of the engine, and it has a little slop but it will stop after a certain point, maybe 1/16 of a rotation, if even that much.

I fastened the other side back to the tach and tried to turn it form the drive side but I couldn't. With the cable loose from the tach, I can stick just the drive cable into the tach and it spins freely.

Any ideas or common problems I can try to trouble shoot? The dealer doesn't have a tach drive in stock, but can get one. Trouble is they cost just over $100 and we already are gonna be struggling with the overhaul bill.

The dealer has been nothing but great everytime we deal with them. They are a very large dealership that sells into Canada and to the major big time operations, but they still have a great parts staff and service department that will help anyone that walks through the door. They are all looking for the customer's best interest and will make it right, but I know this is a problem that would have existed before they tore into it. They just happened to disturb the cable and now it won't drive.

Any help or ideas are appreciated!!!! I want to try to get it figured out before noon on Saturday so I can order any parts I may need- we wanna get this tractor dualed up and ready to go!!

Donovan from Wisconsin

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B. Jones

04-22-2007 10:39:19




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 Re: 285 tach drive help in reply to Don-Wi, 04-20-2007 22:25:57  
Dear Don,

About 2 months ago I ordered the tach drive from e-bay. I don't remember who from but I found one a few minutes ago for about $35. They wanted over $100 from the dealer. It is part number 2758346. It fit our 180 with the 236 engine even though I believe it was made for the 275 or 285 tractor. B. Jones



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DavidP, South Wales

04-22-2007 04:49:46




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 Re: 285 tach drive help in reply to Don-Wi, 04-20-2007 22:25:57  
Hi Donovan,
Seems like everything is free. Has the engine been removed from the tractor for some reason, clutch repair for example? Check the outer cable thoroughly its possible that it has been stretched during removal.
DavidP,South Wales



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Don-Wi

04-22-2007 08:00:56




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 Re: 285 tach drive help in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 04-22-2007 04:49:46  
I was just overhauled. I worked on it a little yesterday and the tach is froze up. I stuck the inner cable in and tried to turen it by hand and it just won't turn. I found a NOS one on ebay though. Then we know exactly how many hours since the overhaul atleast...

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Don-Wi

04-21-2007 16:47:30




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 Re: 285 tach drive help in reply to Don-Wi, 04-20-2007 22:25:57  
I worked on it again today, turn out the tach is junk. I thought I could get it to turn yesterday with just the cable but I guess not. Now I need to find a new tach. I just watched a NOS one go about a month ago on ebay too, think it went fairly cheap compared to a new one from any other source....

Anybody got one laying around from a 200 series Massey? Preferably reading around 6225 hours....
I'll check out a few parts sources, and call the dealer on Monday. It worked when I rove it down there about a month ago...

Donovan from Wisconsin

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jogl

04-21-2007 03:46:24




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 Re: 285 tach drive help in reply to Don-Wi, 04-20-2007 22:25:57  
I've been having the same problem with our 285 and with our 2705. I've spent so much time fooling around with them over the last couple years that I have pretty much decided to just replace everything, drive, cable, tach too if necessary the next time they crap out.

If you find the trick to get them working right let me know, or I'll end up with some new Isspro tachs on our MF's.

Good Day,
JP.

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BigMarv1085

04-21-2007 16:14:13




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 Re: 285 tach drive help in reply to jogl, 04-21-2007 03:46:24  
My 1085 which is the row crop version of the 285 did the same thing. I had removed the tach cable and when I hooked it back, it wouldn't work at all. Took it a part again and the guage would bounce up and down. I tried lubricating and after about 10 tries of pulling off and putting back on it started working right, don't know what was wrong though.



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