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I HATE these kinds of questions, . . .

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monomechanical

04-19-2007 13:44:18




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but I have to ask them, since documentation is difficult to come by, where I am. I've searched this site fairly thoroughly, as well. Surrendered the Ford 8n, this past week, and got a MF 135 in spectacularly good shape, except for the tires. It's a 1969 model, one owner, always shedded, not used much save for pulling an orchard sprayer. In fact, the three point and lift have been very little used since the tractor was dedicated to pulling a sprayer. 3600 original hours. Power steering, high low button on the dash. No owners manual. Differential lock. No auxiliary hydraulic pump in front of the seat. No significant leaks, noticeable. No welds, etc. Needs a new "nose"--the plastic cover above the radiator/grill. Will be delivered this weekend.
Paid $2400.00. Actually, funny conversation over price.
Me: How much would you like?
Seller: I want 2200 for it.
Me: No way. That's not fair. Seller: How much then?
Me: 2600 and not one penny less.
Seller: No way. That's not fair.
Me: How much then? Seller: I said, 2200.
Me: I said, that's not fair. Either 2600 or nothing.
Seller: I won't sell it for that.
Me: Okay, 2500 Seller: No way, 2300.
Me: 2450.
Seller: 2350
Me: 2400. Seller: deal.

Questions:
1. How does the hi low on the dash work? Is it a kind of a "two way torque amplifier"?
2. What does the midway "setting" on the clutch do? How does it work?
3. Are the hydraulics negative pressure? In other words, my 8n was gravity down only. 4. I would like to use a tiller for it. Recommendations for tilling more than an acre? 5. Good parts site in the West?

Thanks for tolerating "beginner" questions.

Monomechanical

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Aaron Ford

04-19-2007 15:36:52




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 Re: I HATE these kinds of questions, . . . in reply to monomechanical, 04-19-2007 13:44:18  
You paid $2400 for a low hour 135? Dang. They stll go for up to 7 grand in top condition and usually retail for about 5. My local reseller wants more than $2400 for hulks.

Cheers,

Aaron



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135 Fan

04-19-2007 15:29:15




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 Re: I HATE these kinds of questions, . . . in reply to monomechanical, 04-19-2007 13:44:18  
You got the tractor for a steal. Is it a diesel?The lever is for multi-power. Always make sure to have it all the way up or down. It has no engine braking in low and can't be started by towing. You do not need to use the clutch when shifting it and can even shift it under load. As for the clutch, it has live hydraulics meaning it has 2 clutches so the PTO can be running without the tractor moving forward while in gear. Great for mowers and tillers. Pushing the clutch down half way stops the tractor but leaves the PTO running. Pushing it down all the way stops the PTO and the tractor. When using the PTO make sure to put it in engine speed and not ground speed. Your tractor has both. I think you pull it back for engine speed. I have a UK model that pulls back for engine speed PTO. Ground speed reverses when you put the tractor in reverse. When rototilling always start the tiller out of the ground and also always lift it up before turning the PTO off. You could damage or break the PTO shaft with the tiller down. Only a few industrial tractors have down pressure on the 3 pt. hitch. Depending on your soil type you could run about a 5 ft. tiller as long as you're not breaking sod or heavy clay. Get a good tiller. A dealer can help you get set up. We used to have an 8N but needed a live PTO for mowing. We found the 135 and it is is a whole lot better. Not that the 8N was bad but the 135 is an outstanding tractor. If it's in good shape the multi-power is great. Parts are pretty reasonable and in good supply. You will enjoy your new toy immensely. Dave

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monomechanical

04-19-2007 15:52:43




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 Re: I HATE these kinds of questions, . . . in reply to 135 Fan, 04-19-2007 15:29:15  
Thanks for the help. I've got no dealer nearby; local farms sold out to development. Not diesel, but gas.

What sort of tiller do you use? (what brand?) I've been looking at a euro-brand of tiller: tiller has it's own three gears; that is, you can alter the rotating speed of the tines, but not while running.



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135 Fan

04-20-2007 16:33:49




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 Re: I HATE these kinds of questions, . . . in reply to monomechanical, 04-19-2007 15:52:43  
Tillers with a gearbox are usually very good but you probably don't need more than 1 speed. Don't get a tiller with adjustable offset. The gearbox isn't as rigid as a solid unit. Several good tillers have a pipe supporting the gear box opposite the shaft going to the chain drive. Maschio is a good tiller but has selectable gears. Sicma makes a good tiller. Very similar to a JD tiller. They might even make them for JD. There are several others. Get a heavy duty model with 6 tines per flange. Also make sure it has a slip clutch. These need to be checked every year because they can seize up. The 6 tines work better and hold up better. Dave

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Badly Bent

04-20-2007 05:47:57




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 Re: I HATE these kinds of questions, . . . in reply to monomechanical, 04-19-2007 15:52:43  
The fact that your tractor has Multi-Power should make it even more useful on that tiller. Multi-Power effectively gives you more gears, so you can adjust the ground speed of the tractor based on need. My 135 has only the 6 forward speeds. I've used tractors with Multi-Power and loved 'em.



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MF Poor

04-20-2007 05:56:29




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 Re: I HATE these kinds of questions, . . . in reply to Badly Bent, 04-20-2007 05:47:57  
Not really. Multipower's low range "free-wheels". (No compression braking) Drop the tiller in the dirt with MP in low and you'll be moving along at whatever speed the tiller decides to push you.



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