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255 Front Wheel Toe In

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pbutler

04-16-2007 05:24:58




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I have an older 255 and since I got it the front wheels have been "pigeon toed"-meaning the bottom of the tires are a lot closer to the center-ie angled out as it goes up.

I has gotten a lot worse over the last year.

What parts of front end is the usual wear cultpit causing that to happen?




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04-16-2007 19:02:51




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 Re: 255 Front Wheel Toe In in reply to pbutler, 04-16-2007 05:24:58  
Toe in means the front center of the tire is closer to the centerline than the rear center of the tire. Every Massey I have seen has some camber to the wheel alignment. The tires should not set 90 degrees to the ground. If you are running down the road on a 3 rib tire, the center rib should obviously be on the pavement as well as 1/2 of the outer rib. If the wheels are properly inflated, and not on rough pavement, the inside rib normally doesn't touch. If its really bad, you will see tire wear on the road and it will dig into your drive while driving straight. From your pictures, it doesn't look off.

\~~/ Too much

]~~[ Too little

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DavidP, South Wales

04-16-2007 11:10:31




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 Re: 255 Front Wheel Toe In in reply to pbutler, 04-16-2007 05:24:58  
Hi, there is no adjustment to compensate for this. Are you sure that they are substantially closer at the bottom and not just toe-ing in? Look at the codition and play in the wheel bearings, condition and play in the king-pin bushes, thrust bearings and for any movement in the axle sections. Check also the axle pivot bushing. Although this should go the other way. If it is toe-ing in check the ball joints and drop arms in the steering box. If you need to adjust the tracking you should aim for a maximum toe-in of about 1/8"

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pbutler

04-16-2007 13:11:46




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 Re: 255 Front Wheel Toe In-Pictures in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 04-16-2007 11:10:31  
Sorry I don't have a better picture-I will get one when I get back home. Basically it looks like the front wheels are just tilted in-pictures don't show it well but basically like the front wheels are 3" closer at the bottom than the top.

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http://www.paul-julia.com/images/MasseyAfter2.jpg



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Don-Wi

04-17-2007 00:09:01




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 Re: 255 Front Wheel Toe In-Pictures in reply to pbutler, 04-16-2007 13:11:46  
If anyting, the wheel bearings may be getting a little loose. Grab the top of the tire and see if you can rock it back and forth a little bit. Just take off the dust cap on the hub and tighten them up a little bit more and put the cotter pin back through.

Donovan from Wisconsin

That reminds me... I should probably check both of our massey's....



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04-16-2007 19:07:49




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 Re: 255 Front Wheel Toe In-Pictures in reply to pbutler, 04-16-2007 13:11:46  
third party image

Here's the best picture I have for your front view. As you can see, there is quite a bit of outward tip to the wheels. This one is set to spec and does not wear rubber.



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DavidP, South Wales

04-17-2007 00:29:56




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 Re: 255 Front Wheel Toe In-Pictures in reply to [email protected], 04-16-2007 19:07:49  
Hello,
Absolutely agree with Dave. Camber is not something that's just there. It is carefully designed to take many things into account, tyre wear, easy steering, a degree of self centering,scrubbing.....things that I know of.
If this still appears to be excessive, as mentioned you need to check for wear etc.
Cheers
DavidP,South Wales



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pbutler

04-17-2007 04:47:46




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 Re: 255 Front Wheel Toe In-Pictures in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 04-17-2007 00:29:56  
Ok,when running down the road it is still fully on center rib-probably because new tires. Looks like this may not be too excessive after all-just more than I am used to with larger tractors.

Thanks all!



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