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MF 202 3-point hydraulics

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Marlin Liles

07-26-1998 21:31:38




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I recently obtained a MF 202 that had been setting for about 10 years. After cleaning and rebuilding the carb and changing all the various oils in the system the rear arms do not move when the control lever(s) are moved. The transmission and rear end oil had water in it (milky looking). This tractor previously had a back hoe on it and the lower arms and links are missing. Did this tractor have the three point built in it? Any suggestions? Thanks for any help.

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Gerald

07-30-1998 18:06:13




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 Re: MF 202 3-point hydraulics in reply to Marlin Liles, 07-26-1998 21:31:38  
: I recently obtained a MF 202 that had been setting for about 10 years. After cleaning and rebuilding the carb and changing all the various oils in the system the rear arms do not move when the control lever(s) are moved. The transmission and rear end oil had water in it (milky looking). This tractor previously had a back hoe on it and the lower arms and links are missing. Did this tractor have the three point built in it? Any suggestions? Thanks for any help.

What levers do you have? two on quadrants at the right side of the seat? two or three on top the tranmission just under the front of the seat?

If its like my MF-135 with auxiliary valve (the one under the seat), the left valve has a detent and has to be in the forward handle position for the handles on the quadrant on the right to run the 3 point up and down. Both the right hand handles have to be at their full up position to live the three point. If there's no auxiliary valve, the right two still have to be at the top of their quadrants to raise the three point. On lowers the three point for a constant position, the other for a constant drag position, typically used for a plow that automatically gets shallower when the ground is tough. The essence of Furgeson's three point hitch.

Gathering of water in the transmission comes from rain in through the shift lever missing the boots and by condensation from breathing through the filler and other vents to the transmission like the dip stick. The best protection is keeping the tractor inside, though I did add a gasket to the filler plug and seem to have much less water in the oil. But then I keep it inside too.

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Jack in NB

07-29-1998 12:42:26




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 Re: MF 202 3-point hydraulics in reply to Marlin Liles, 07-26-1998 21:31:38  
Hi Marlin -

It had the three-point built in.

Your problem could be anything from some stuck valves to a missing pump! They were removed sometimes with the hoe installation, and sold for spare change.

Suggest you pick up an I&T service manual for the MF 35 from our hosts (see top of the page). It covers the 202 quite well, and has reliable info. Once you have it, you can start to wring out the system to see where the problems are.

Or if you're in a rush, jack up the right rear wheel 6", and remove the cover with the transmission dipstick in it. You may have to drain some oil out, even with the wheel up. Take a look inside to see if you still have a pump, and check to see if the levers operate the pump control valve.

Then drop me an e-mail. (I'll be out Aug 6 to 17.)

Jack Wetmore

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Marlin Liles

08-02-1998 20:36:52




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 Re: Re: MF 202 3-point hydraulics in reply to Jack in NB, 07-29-1998 12:42:26  
: Hi Marlin -

: It had the three-point built in.

: Your problem could be anything from some stuck valves to a missing pump! They were removed sometimes with the hoe installation, and sold for spare change.

: Suggest you pick up an I&T service manual for the MF 35 from our hosts (see top of the page). It covers the 202 quite well, and has reliable info. Once you have it, you can start to wring out the system to see where the problems are.

: Or if you're in a rush, jack up the right rear wheel 6", and remove the cover with the transmission dipstick in it. You may have to drain some oil out, even with the wheel up. Take a look inside to see if you still have a pump, and check to see if the levers operate the pump control valve.

: Then drop me an e-mail. (I'll be out Aug 6 to 17.)

: Jack Wetmore

I got the I&T manual a few days before your response. It is daunting compared to a Chilton or the factory manual for my Honda.

Today I pulled the tractor on a side hill and probabily got nearly a foot of cross level. When I removed the plate the problem was obvious. The roller for the valve control lever was in front of the vertical levers. After pulling the top cover and repositioning the levers.and reinstalling the top cover, the arms went up and now are stuck in the up position. There was a lot of rusty crud in the top cover near the cylinder which I washed out before reinstalling the top cover.

Any suggestions? What position do I put the draft lever in to make the thing work like a TO-20 / 9N 3 point.

Thanks again for your prompt and helpful advice.

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