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MF-35 Tach. Gauge

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Scott

09-12-2000 14:57:47




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I have a 1962 MF-35 which I have restored. The restoration is almost complete, except for one nagging item. The tachometer/speedometer gauge is missing from the center console. When I went to purchase a new gauge, I was told that it would not work on my system. My tractor has an alternator instead of a generator and apparently this gauge will only work with a generator. I suspect that the original 1962 system, incorporated the generator and that mine was changed, by a previous owner. I don't know anything about either system but I assume the alternator system is better in some way, or it wouldn't have been changed. Do I have to change my system back to a generator, or can I use the present system, for the tachometer gauge? What is the disadvantage of a generator system if any? If I have to change it back, how much trouble am I into? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Ken

09-20-2000 19:50:25




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 Re: MF-35 Tach. Gauge in reply to Scott, 09-12-2000 14:57:47  
I have my '62 MF35 engine disassembled now. Took the flywheel off this evening, plan to take the crank out tomorrow.

This tach problem annoys me too, and I keep trying to think of a way around it. My tach cable has been broken since I've had the tractor - about 10 years now. It already had an alternator when I bought it. I've seen pictures and diagrams showing the tach connection on the rear of the original generator at the axis. I tried driving the end of my tach cable with a variable speed drill and the tach seems to work just fine, according to the speed rating for my drill, the tach seems to register half the rpms of the cable. That seems consistent with the pully sizes on the Alternator and Crank.

I looked at the Distributor shaft to see if there was an easy way to attach a gear drive for the Tach, but under the points I found a centrigal advance mechanism - interesting in and of itself. Maybe its possible to put a gear the size of the starter pinion, or bendix, whichever its called, at the flywheel and then divide it down to the right rpm.

I bet someone has rigged some kind of a solution to this, I just keep looking to find it.

btw, does anyone know where I can get a replacement Gas Guage, and I also need to repair or replace the little instrument light on the hood.

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Thyge

09-18-2000 14:28:00




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 Re: MF-35 Tach. Gauge in reply to Scott, 09-12-2000 14:57:47  
I find this hard to understand.
I have an MF-35 1962 with the Perkins 3A-152 engine. On my engine, the tachometer is attached to the camshaft on the rear end of the engine.
I also have a 35'er with the Standard gasoline engine. Here the tach drive is connected to the distributor drive shaft below the distributor.
I haven't seen any 35's with tach drive from the alternator/generator, so please fill me in...

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Scott

09-18-2000 19:41:51




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 Re: Re: MF-35 Tach. Gauge in reply to Thyge, 09-18-2000 14:28:00  
Hello Thyge, thanks for the response.
Believe me, I get confused by the whole thing also. That's why I posted the question. Everytime I asked someone, who I felt was knowlegeable about the 35, I would get different answers. My machine has the continental gas engine. Apparently this system, had a wire that plugged into the generator somewhere and ran the tach. People have told me it is not a very reliable or accurate system. Some say I can use the hookup from a later model machine with an alternator, but others tell me that won't work. So I'm still trying to figure it out. Wish me luck.

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Marcel from Saskatoon Canada

09-13-2000 09:00:06




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 Re: MF-35 Tach. Gauge in reply to Scott, 09-12-2000 14:57:47  
I have a factory alternator with the tach hook on the back. It still uses a voltage regulator. If and when the alternator/voltage regulator dies I will spend the money to have the orginal fixed so that I am never without a tach again.

I believe the alternator came off a 180 with a perkins engine



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B.C.

09-13-2000 06:26:09




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 Re: MF-35 Tach. Gauge in reply to Scott, 09-12-2000 14:57:47  
Our MH50 has the mechanical tach drive out the back of the generator. It's a nice touch, but when you think about it, it really is not as accurate as an electrical one would be.

The drive for the original one does go through a belt which drives the generator. It shouldn't slip, but it isn't really a direct mechanical drive the way the old Corvette distributor or Detroit Disel camshaft drives were.

So if you still want a tach to check your engine speed perhaps you could find some sort of electrical one that gets triggered off the points or coil. You're probably smart to stay with the alternator in any event.

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Frank

09-12-2000 20:28:01




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 Re: MF-35 Tach. Gauge in reply to Scott, 09-12-2000 14:57:47  
I have a 35 and use my tach every time I'm on it.It comes in handy for pto speed,tune-ups or any time you need a set RPM.I think the main reason yours was changed from generator to alt is that you don't need a voltage regulator with an altinator. good luck



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Garvas

09-12-2000 18:00:54




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 Re: MF-35 Tach. Gauge in reply to Scott, 09-12-2000 14:57:47  
The tack was a mechanical type which operated via a cable from the back of the generator. I do not know of any alternators which will allow you to run this. The generator was replaced with a alternator to allow for a faster charge rate. Generators do not produce the electricity that an alternator will. I also have a MF35 (unrestored) which I use for mowing on a ranch. Love it, almost bought a Ford. Glad I didn't.

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