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Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic)

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lonestarjeff

03-03-2007 08:36:02




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The round bales are really hard on the stabilizer bars. Got tired of having to straighten them out, so I decided to try & stiffen'em up a little. Welded angleirons over the bars.

So far they're holding up nice & straight.

Jeff

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135 Fan

03-04-2007 08:42:06




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to lonestarjeff, 03-03-2007 08:36:02  
I bought some that are called heavy duty and I think are made by Speeco. They are a big turn buckle. They look like a smaller adjustable top link bar. They take a little longer putting implements on and off because you have to loosen both of them and then tighten them but they hold the 3 pt. arms very rigid. Dave



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lonestarjeff

03-04-2007 09:32:53




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to 135 Fan, 03-04-2007 08:42:06  
I've heard of those but never seen them. Post a pic if you can.

Jeff



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135 Fan

03-04-2007 11:02:44




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to lonestarjeff, 03-04-2007 09:32:53  
I don't have a picture but if you look under Speeco they have a small picture. Dave



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MF Poor

03-04-2007 11:28:17




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to 135 Fan, 03-04-2007 11:02:44  
They may work (and work well) on the style draft arms that a 165 has. (implement end attaches before extendable link end) I have a Massey 150. It doesn't have the extenda links. My stabilizer bar attaches directly to the implement pin. I have a set of the aforementioned turnbuckle style bars. They work but not real well in my situation. The implement end of the stabilizer bar tends to bind against the draft arm.

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MF Poor

03-04-2007 05:34:18




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to lonestarjeff, 03-03-2007 08:36:02  
I've been eying a set made out of 3/8" chain. I've seen several sets that were for bigger CAT II hitches. They reach from stabilizer bracket under the fender to about mid-ways on the lower link. Looks like a good way to snap a lower link if your load tries to shift. The latest one I saw (at a site I can't post on here) ran from the bracket, all the way to the implement pin or the point where yours mounts on the extendable link Massey arms. They have a heavy turnbuckle in the middle that shorten/legnthens the chain by about 3" for adjustment.

I've bent dozens of the bar stabilizers. I'm thinking it might be just as easy to use chain and let it have some (very limited) movement. Gonna try soon. I'll post back with results.

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lonestarjeff

03-04-2007 07:43:30




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to MF Poor, 03-04-2007 05:34:18  
I guess using chains would put all the load shift on the one side that's in tension, instead of the two bars sharing the load shift (one in tension, the other in compression).

You think the pins can handle it? I noticed both my bars had the pin holes worn to an oval shape, from those round bales slamming side to side crossing the creeks, etc.

Jeff



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MF Poor

03-04-2007 11:35:44




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to lonestarjeff, 03-04-2007 07:43:30  
If one side is bowing when put in compression, the tension side is probably providing all the "stability" at that moment anyway. I have the same problem with those rigid bars when I'm using a bush hog. Oddly enough, it's always the right side that bows. I don't know if the chains will do the trick or not, but I'm going to give 'em a shot.



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Jerry/MT

03-03-2007 12:01:51




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to lonestarjeff, 03-03-2007 08:36:02  
That's the narrowest 3 pt attachment I've ever seen! Is the tractor a -35? How big of a bale can you lift with it? An alternative way to stiffen them would be to make them a T crossection with the lower part of the T to the outside. Nice job of welding.



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lonestarjeff

03-03-2007 17:07:56




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-03-2007 12:01:51  
Do you mean the narrowest bale fork or tractor links? The pic aspect may be a little deceptive.

It's a 165 w/ the wheels set at their narrowest setting. The bales 6x6, around 1000#.

Here's another shot of the 165:

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Jerry/MT

03-03-2007 18:22:37




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to lonestarjeff, 03-03-2007 17:07:56  
Narrowest bale spike. It looks like it's a foot wide!



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MF Poor

03-03-2007 14:04:29




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-03-2007 12:01:51  
Either a 165 or 175.



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ric1

03-03-2007 17:14:06




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 Re: Stiffened stabilizer bars(pic) in reply to MF Poor, 03-03-2007 14:04:29  
i have a identical 165 like this one to the t



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