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Rod in Smiths F

02-15-2007 12:59:21




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After a number of near-misses, this morning I finally managed to run my MF35 diesel dry. On the county road at the end of the driveway. In a wind chill of -30F. With no power cord within 400 yards. It was bright out, though.

I dashed to the service station to stock up belatedly on diesel, poured it in and started pumping. Needless to say the battery gave out before the oil made it back to the injectors. I hauled out my new mini-generator and ran the block heater and then the battery charger. Then the starter quit with an expensive little puff of smoke from the front end.

A tractor-savvy neighbour stopped (I'm on the road, remember?) and said, "Starting one of those is a terrible job! You picked a lovely place for it. You only do this once."

I asked if he could tow me off the road, and he agreed he could do that, since he'd had his John Deere running that morning, so he climbed into his SUV and drove over the hill.

When he backed up for the tow I asked if I should try chain-starting the tractor on the trip back to the barn. He said, "Sure, but choose road gear or the wheels will drag." Twenty feet of towing and a couple of strange whumps and the 35 was purring like a kitten, except that my brand new tractometer no longer worked.

The tach came back to life as it warmed up, but there still remained the problem of the non-functioning starter. After I popped a shear pin on the snowblower (not my day)I shut the 35 off just inside the barn doors. As I expected, the starter refused to respond.

Off the starter came and to the rebuilder we went. The starter, a long British model, then went into the dumpster and I left with a new-looking Delco starter, $379.00 lighter in the wallet.

Next time I think I'll keep better track of the contents of the tank. Diesel is the cheapest thing I can put into that tractor.

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WilliamBos

02-16-2007 20:04:59




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 02-15-2007 12:59:21  
Rod,

Sorry to hear you had a bad day. You should have rebuilt the Lucas. They are a better starter, more torque, and will outlast the way cheaper Delco unit.

Glad you got it running again. is it a 23c or a Perky?

Take care,

Will



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

02-17-2007 04:55:57




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to WilliamBos, 02-16-2007 20:04:59  
The engine's a Perkins, and the starter wasn't a Lucas. It was some other British acronym I can't recall, something like ACE. The rebuild guy was very definite that he wouldn't rebuild it: the parts cost way too much when a new Delco will do just fine for a fraction of the cost.

He told me the engine will start better with the new Delco. I insisted that it started really well with the old one. Now after using it a couple of times I see what he meant.

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51Pony

02-16-2007 15:13:09




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 02-15-2007 12:59:21  
Rod,
At least you didn't try to put heating oil in it. Cleaning that wax out of all the lines is a lot worse.



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Bob N.Y.

02-16-2007 18:08:23




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to 51Pony, 02-16-2007 15:13:09  
I have been running my 65 diesel on home heating oil for years.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

02-16-2007 15:29:20




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to 51Pony, 02-16-2007 15:13:09  
REALLY???

I was thinking of trying that.

Any juicy details on what must have been quite a story?



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Lou

02-16-2007 11:10:12




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 02-15-2007 12:59:21  
Hi Rod, This cold will find the weak spot in any machinery. Down here in Syracuse I cant see the picnic table in the front yard, everything is buried , the wind is blowing and its cold.



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Boss Hog

02-16-2007 05:06:46




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 02-15-2007 12:59:21  
To me, the worst part would have been the humiliating experience of getting a pull from a green tractor.

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DavidP, South Wales

02-16-2007 02:11:33




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 02-15-2007 12:59:21  
Hi Rod,
Bad hair day, NO, bad fuel day!
Proves a point over and over. When a fuel system is disturbed for whatever reason and won't start, a short tow is all that is needed. That extra bit of constant cranking speed works miracles. Would be reluctant to use a chain though!
Keep warm
DavidP



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supergrumpy

02-16-2007 10:59:17




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 Re: You only do this once. in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 02-16-2007 02:11:33  
back when I was young and immortal, we always towed our $50 cars home with short chains we kept under the seat, as long as 1 guy had his car going we could get home



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