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hydraulic hooplah

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nubby

02-07-2007 17:21:49




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i have a 1958 35 utility that my grandfather owned. it has been in the family const. business since it was new. i don't know if anyone has ever changed the fluid in the rear end!! i drained it the other day and it was milky. my question is what kind of fluid do i need to replace it with?
thanks for any help!!!




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Myron Richter

02-08-2007 10:14:24




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 Re: hydraulic hooplah in reply to nubby, 02-07-2007 17:21:49  
Napa sells GL-1 mineral oil, I just bought 10 gallon last week.



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mike a. tenn.

02-08-2007 02:44:13




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 Re: hydraulic hooplah in reply to nubby, 02-07-2007 17:21:49  
nubby...your tractor takes straight mineral oil. your AGCO/MF dealer should sell it, #M1103-SAE-90. NAPA sometimes carries the GL1-SAE80/90, and you might get it cheaper there. you'll need 8 US gals.

don't forget to clean the filter screen while you're at it if yours has one. earlier 35's didn't but i think yours should. you'll have to take the plate off the left side to get at it. make sure you look to see how the PTO shift lever goes in as you pull it off so you know how to put it back together. the inside end of the lever fits into the groove on the shift gear.

by pulling the cover and cleaning the filter screen, you can also check to see how much sludge is in the bottom of your gear case. mine had a lot so i cleaned it out really well. you might want to let it drain for a day or so if it's cold out. and don't forget to drain it from both drain plugs. those are magnetic plugs so you'll want to clean them well too.

one tip...when filling it the first four or five gallons will go in pretty easy, but then you better slow down and let the oil make it's way into the back of the gearbox or you'll over flow all over the place. in other words...take it slow. by the way...straight mineral oil can look a little "milky" after you've been using your tractor. but if you think you might have some water in it, check the rubber boots around your gearshift levers for cracks, 'specially if it sits outside in the rain alot.

hope this helps...

-mike

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Aaron Ford

02-07-2007 18:49:19




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 Re: hydraulic hooplah in reply to nubby, 02-07-2007 17:21:49  
My Massey dealer recommended permatran. Mine called for 80-90 from the factory. Just too hard to get the GL1 stuff.

Aaron



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Tom G (OK)

02-08-2007 18:19:56




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 Re: hydraulic hooplah in reply to Aaron Ford, 02-07-2007 18:49:19  
Remember that your filter is wired in. You'll have to snip it out with some dykes. Clean it out with deisel fuel and replace it. You can get some new wire and reattach it (twist it back to shape with a little nail). It's just a wire mesh thingy.

Big Dean recommended refilling the case with deisel fuel and running it for a couple of minutes (go forward, backward, shift the gears, run the lift.....), then draining it out and refilling it with the oil. It worked great for me.

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mike a. tenn.

02-09-2007 07:01:43




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 Re: hydraulic hooplah in reply to Tom G (OK), 02-08-2007 18:19:56  
according to my book, the filter screen should be held in by a wing nut. i have an early to-35 that doesn't have it so i don't know fopr sure, just going by what the book says.

-mike



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Tom G (OK)

02-11-2007 14:40:21




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 Re: hydraulic hooplah in reply to mike a. tenn., 02-09-2007 07:01:43  
Oh, yeah, Now I remember. Mine WAS held on by a wing-nut. The wing nut was wired up to prevent it from spinning off. I snipped it off and then retwisted new wire to it with a nail.



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Tom G (OK)

02-08-2007 18:41:11




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 Re: hydraulic hooplah (OIL IN WATER?) in reply to Tom G (OK), 02-08-2007 18:19:56  
A rule of thumb to detect oil in water is if it is milky white, it probably has water in it. For a more definitive test, get a small cupfull of the suspect oil, dip an opened-up paper clip in it(hold the clip with some vise-grips), hold the oily clip in the flame of a propane torch. If it crackles, there's water in the oil. This is known as the crackle test (I play at chemistry so's I can afford to work at horsing/farming/tractoring).

Check your rubber boots.

Even with good boots, rainwater can get into the oil. If you park the tractor outside, you can cover the boots. Putting a five gallon bucket over the gear shifter works. For the boot over the top link, you can saw up a one gallon bucket and tie it over the link

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