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MF65 Over Heating

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Twigs

01-27-2007 16:28:42




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Hi- I posted a question a while back about overheating and had some good feedback. I can not find that posting any longer for some reason. So, I had to repost. How can I tell what is causing a MF65 to overheat? After about 15 minutes it will start to overheat and leak some antifreeze. I can see the lower left corner side of the radiator is wet... does this indicate the raidator needs replacing? When starting up the tractor and looking into the radiator cap I don't see a lot of circulation so would this indicate the water pump? What else should I check? I first time tractor owner and new to tractor repair so all of your suggestions and directions are EXTREAMLY helpful to me. Thanks!

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traper

01-28-2007 08:54:43




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 Re: MF65 Over Heating in reply to Twigs, 01-27-2007 16:28:42  
Aaron

When you painted that raditor hope you dident paint core? leave code bare or paint with heat transfer paint.One way to check rad. for clog is drain rad. look at top of core if you see twenty tubes and ten are blocked consider rad. flow half blocked. Some rads.have shield so this will not work..



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Jack in NB

01-28-2007 03:43:43




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 Re: MF65 Over Heating in reply to Twigs, 01-27-2007 16:28:42  
Had that problem with ours.

In field operation, our 35's would pull more. We even resorted to hooking up a lawn sprinkler to spray on the rad and oil pan while running an irrigation pump.

Checked water pump for water flowing fast in the top of the rad when hot, replaced thermostat twice, removed water pump to check impellor clearance, replaces all hoses in case one was partly blocked, .... 5 years, including a couple of calls to Big Dean....

Finally removed the rad and had it rodded out at a rad shop. Turned out that repeated topping up - sometimes with less than clean water - had left gucky deposits that partially plugged the vertical tubes in the rad.

No more problem.

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Twigs

01-27-2007 18:36:16




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 Re: MF65 Over Heating in reply to Twigs, 01-27-2007 16:28:42  
Thx again for the info. What do you mean by thermostat seats in the housing? Could you explain this in more detail for me? Thanks



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Aaron Ford

01-28-2007 19:40:22




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 Re: MF65 Over Heating in reply to Twigs, 01-27-2007 18:36:16  
The thermostat sets on the head, and the housing bolts on top with two 5/16 inch bolts. The groove to accept the thermostat in most applications is on the bottom and you merely place the thermostat in the recess and bolt up the housing. On the 65 gasser, the thermostat fits into a recess on the thermostat housing. It is nearly impossible to get it all to line up. I pinched the thermostat flange several times before using sealant to lock it in place while the housing was installed. HTH

Let's go Mountaineers,

Aaron

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Aaron Ford

01-27-2007 17:41:47




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 Re: MF65 Over Heating in reply to Twigs, 01-27-2007 16:28:42  
My radiator was plugged from the oil that had leaked out of the air cleaner and the chaff that stuck to it. I took out the radiator and washed it in a parts washer. Took a few hours to wash all that stuff out. I prettied it up with a coat of high gloss paint before it was reinstalled.

You also may not have any blades left on the water pump impeller. Not sure how to check this.

BTW, when replacing gaskets in the cooling system, be sure to put a thin coat of sealant on both sides of the gasket. I wish I had.

Also, the thermostat seats in the housing, not the block on the gassers. Put a thin layer of sealant on the lip of the housing, install thermostat in the housing, then wait til it firms up before trying to bolt the housing to the head. I have ruined two gaskets before figuring this one out. I kept getting the thermostat in between the sealing surfaces.
HTH

Let's go Mountaineers,

Aaron

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Joe Ferguson

01-27-2007 17:25:07




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 Re: MF65 Over Heating in reply to Twigs, 01-27-2007 16:28:42  
Hi

There may be no defects at all...

When the engine is cold the thermostat is closed
and no circulation can be seen through the filling neck.

There is no coolant recuperation bottle on these old tractors so if you fill radiator to the cap when the engine warms up the coolant will expand and throw the surplus by the overflow tube. So after the engine reach normal temperature the overflow will stop leaking.

if you stop the engine and wait cool down you will see that coolant is lower...do"nt refill because
it will throw the surplus again in warm up.

The normal (cold engine) coolant level in radiator is 3 to 4 inches below the filling neck. When engine is at normal temperature coolant will be just at the filling neck.

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That said...does the engine temperature gauge indicates overheat ? if yes..the thermostat may be stuck closed or installed backwards...is the fan belt tight if it slips the water pump does"nt turn fast enough.

Warning ! Do not remove the radiator cap when engine is hot coolant under pressure will get out and burn your hands and arms. You may remove it by turning very slowly whith an insulated glove.

My 2�

Joe Ferguson

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twigs

01-27-2007 17:43:18




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 Re: MF65 Over Heating in reply to Joe Ferguson, 01-27-2007 17:25:07  
Great, thanks for the advise. I hope it is something simple (and cheap). The guage does show very high temparture and I had a lot of steam but your point about the thermostat has me hopeful. What temp thermostat should be in a MF65 gas tractor? Thanks again!



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Aaron Ford

01-27-2007 17:57:20




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 Re: MF65 Over Heating in reply to twigs, 01-27-2007 17:43:18  
I used a Stant 13006. This a 160* unit like the factory installed.

I have heard that they will run better with a 180* unit, but was to afraid to try. The 160* was apparently used to prevent overheating alcohol style antifreezes. Ethylene based antifreezes do not need this.

HTH

Let's go Mountaineers,

Aaron



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