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MF 165 DIESEL 1966 - crankcase drain plug

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Jicarre

12-17-2006 00:40:34




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Hello everybody,


I was trying to drain the oil of the engine of my tractor when I realised the drain plug had been weld... I do not know the reason... I asked several people what to do to remove the used oil. I have already received some advises, but could you give me yours before I make a mistake ? The weld is a big point between the crankcase and the cork, just on one side of the cork and a little drop of oil is coming out (around the cork). The level of the oil in the engine is good from few mounth so it is not liquing so much. What do you think about it ? The oil is dirty and I have no idea when they replaced it for the last time.

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DavidP, South Wales

12-17-2006 14:42:06




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 Re: MF 165 DIESEL 1966 - crankcase drain plug in reply to Jicarre, 12-17-2006 00:40:34  
Hello,
First of all are you absolutely certain that it is welded. You have a cast sump and probably a mild steel plug. They can be welded but it's not easy. Could this be a sealer of some sort that you are seeing. Have you tried a hacksaw on it to make sure its metallic?
If you do not wish to remove the plug, the oil can be removed with a suction container made for this job. Your local lawnmower (tondeuse) repairer may have one or your local garage. I have used one for years. Please come back
DavidP

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Gerald J.

12-17-2006 14:25:50




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 Re: MF 165 DIESEL 1966 - crankcase drain plug in reply to Jicarre, 12-17-2006 00:40:34  
Weld doesn't stick to cork, only to steel. Are you sure you're not seeing the boss sticking through the oil pan and a weld holding it in place? Have you tried backing out the drain plug with a big enough wrench?

Gerald J.



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135 Fan

12-17-2006 10:53:09




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 Re: MF 165 DIESEL 1966 - crankcase drain plug in reply to Jicarre, 12-17-2006 00:40:34  
Could the pan have a crack or the threads for the plug been buggered. I'd take a small grinder with a thin disc and grind out the weld so you can get the plug out. Then you can see what's wrong. Maybe just needs a tap to clean up the threads and a new washer on the drain plug. Good Luck. Dave



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janne

12-17-2006 04:48:10




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 Re: MF 165 DIESEL 1966 - crankcase drain plug in reply to Jicarre, 12-17-2006 00:40:34  
hi!

my first idea would be to first use an angle grinder to get as much of the weld off as possible. then, with a hammer and a wrench i'd try to break it loose.



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Jicarre

12-18-2006 01:13:17




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 Re: MF 165 DIESEL 1966 - crankcase drain plug in reply to janne, 12-17-2006 04:48:10  
Hello Guys, it is me again!

To thank you again ! I observed properly the drain plug and the weld. Paying attention to the seal damaged. In fact the weld did not touch the body of the engine (carter in french) So I decided to turn it to the right side unclockwise with a wrench and a hammer. I hit the wrench precausioly and the corck came out in good condition (good enough) because previous using damaged it on the top bolt. For this reason previous owner of the tractor weld a new bolt on the drain plug. I am very happy of that, I will do a good maintenance with new filters and new seals. THANKS.

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