Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Massey Harris & Massey Ferguson Tractors Discussion Forum
:

MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl ?

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Jicarre

11-03-2006 12:42:27




Report to Moderator

Hi everybody,

I need to clean the fuel sediment bowl on my MF 165.
Is it some precaution to take before to do it ?
Do I need to drain air bleeding somewhere ?

I never did that and I do not want to make any mistake ... (an heavy one !)




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
old

11-03-2006 15:09:23




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to Jicarre, 11-03-2006 12:42:27  
All you do it turn off the gas, then loosen the bale that holds it on. Then just flip the bale to the side and pop out the bowl. I clean the ones I have with carb cleaner. You may need to get a new gasket for it, and most good auto parts stores will have the gasket, as long as its a gas tractor theres no need to bleed the fule system. Don't worry if when you put the bowl back on and it doesn't fill with gas right away, it will fill as soon as you start the tractor and the float in the carb drops and the carb asks for more gas. Now if its a diesel then theres more to doing it

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jicarre

11-03-2006 23:41:54




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to old, 11-03-2006 15:09:23  
Many thanks to you, 135 FAN and OLD,

I appreacied a lot you answered my question. I did not know it was important to filter gaz or fuel. But now I realiezed that there are two different systems.
The MF 165 exists in two versions : A diesel one and gas one. Sorry guys, I did not know that. It is the very first tractor I have in my life and believe me, it is very useful. Before him, I was working like a donkey... Now I appreacie so much my new toy(40 years old) I do not want it is not working with any kind of trouble !

I want to add one thing more :
Here in BELGIUM (WESTERN EUROPE) The gas is so expensive, I could not imagine one second, we could fill the tank with such gas to feed a tractor working many hours a day!

Thanks again for your very helpfull advises and I will be reading your forum as often as I can.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
135m Fan

11-04-2006 00:54:54




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to Jicarre, 11-03-2006 23:41:54  
Hey, isn't moto-cross the national sport in Belgium? Glad to help out. If your tractor is a diesel, you should change the main fuel filters at least once a year or have someone do it. It's not a big job. Always make sure your fuel can is clean so you don't get dirt in your tank. 165's are very good tractors and cheap on fuel. By the way is it gas or diesel? Gas will have spark plugs. Dave



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jicarre

11-04-2006 07:18:27




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to 135m Fan, 11-04-2006 00:54:54  
Yes we have the best bikers in moto cross in Belgium

I will tell you the names later, because I am not so fan of this sport... I am a cycliste... We had Eddy MERCKX, De VLAEMINCK, Freddy MAERTENS and we have now Tom BONEN and we had Lance AMSTRONG (made in USA) who lived in BELGIUM during his carreer.

My 165 is great, it is a diesel for sure ! I just forgot to tell you Sorry . In my mind fuel means diesel and a lot of frenchspeakers mix up.

By the way, some time is difficult to start the engine: The battery is in good SHAPE but it seems the diesel is not on time or not in the right place for ignition. How to be sure the gazoil is in good position to have a good starting?

Many thanks again

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
135 Fan

11-04-2006 09:36:36




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to jicarre, 11-04-2006 07:18:27  
Belgium is home to the recently retired 10 times M-X world champion, Stephan Everts. I have a friend that went to the M-X des nations when it was there and went to Everts home. He's a very nice guy. As for your tractor, make sure the shut off lever is pushed all the way in before starting. In colder weather, it won't start as easily. If it is warmer and is getting harder to start sometimes, it sounds like you need to change your fuel filters. They could be getting plugged. Big Deans site tells how to do it but it might be easier to just get someone who has done it before to show you. If there is the tiniest bit of air in the system, it won't start. Also don't run it out of fuel. I had a former neighbor with a 245 that had no idea the filters ever had to be changed. He ran it for probably 5 or 6 years without ever changing them. He asked me if I ever had to change mine? He said his tractor would barely start. He wasn't the smartest guy when it came to machinery. You're at least asking for assistance so you can learn about your tractor. There are very smart people on this forum. Dave

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
135 Fan

11-03-2006 15:43:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to old, 11-03-2006 15:09:23  
I think it's a diesel. Turn the fuel off and then take the bowl off and empty it. Then put it back on and turn the fuel back on. Loosen it[bowl] enough that fuel over flows and then tighten it. Then you could pump the primer a few times. You shouldn't need to bleed it. Dave



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Don-Wi

11-03-2006 23:26:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to 135 Fan, 11-03-2006 15:43:32  
how can you remember what everyone has 135? I'm going out on a limb by your handle that youi've got a 135, but I couldn't tell you gas or deisel, perkins or cont. Some guys I kinda remember, but you seem to remember more than most... You got one of them photographic memories? How much that run ya, and where can you get one? Mines only 22 years young and it's already scattered all over the place....

Just for perks, ya know what I've got?

Donovan from Wisconsin

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
135 Fan

11-04-2006 10:07:50




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to Don-Wi, 11-03-2006 23:26:35  
Bad memory? LOL



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
135 Fan

11-04-2006 10:02:56




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to Don-Wi, 11-03-2006 23:26:35  
No I don't have a photographic memory. My brain is clouded from too many welding fumes. I remembered his machine because of his english translation. He also mentioned about bleeding the system if I recall. That would indicate diesel. My tractor is only the best. Three cylinder Perkins diesel with multi-power. It's a very early UK model and the UK's had higher compression than the US models. We've had the tractor since about 1980 and only this year because of this forum have I been able to find out anything about my tractor. I can get parts no problem but the dealers couldn't even tell me what year it was. Dave

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Ali fae Crieff

11-07-2006 13:48:39




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to 135 Fan, 11-04-2006 10:02:56  
Dave, How come you have a UK 135? ( i am assuming you are in the US ) How early is it, does it have headlights in the front grille, what type of fenders does it have? Cheers, Ali



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
135 Fan

11-07-2006 14:05:12




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to Ali fae Crieff, 11-07-2006 13:48:39  
I'm in Canada. It is an early 65 model [first year UK]. It didn't have lights in the grill. It appeared to have american fenders. J.J. on here has one as well that is only 68 numbers newer in the serial number. If you go in the archives, he posted some pictures of it. They brought a lot of them to Canada to keep up with demand. Dave



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Don-Wi

11-04-2006 23:14:54




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to 135 Fan, 11-04-2006 10:02:56  
Well, we've got a 165 gasser w/ the continental in it, and a non-functioning MP at the moment. We've also got a 285, Oliver 1600 and 1855, as well as a non-running 1755. The 165 and 1600 are gassers, and the other 3 are deisel.

The 285 has over 6100 hours on the original engine. Doesn't start very good below 40 w/out being plugged in, much below 20 is almost impossible and then it'll put fuel in the oil. During the summer months it isn't so bad, but it does need to be freshened up some time...

Donovan from Wisconsin

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
135 Fan

11-04-2006 23:59:22




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to Don-Wi, 11-04-2006 23:14:54  
Now I know what you have. Your 165 must be a very early model. I have a guide to 100 series MF tractors and the 176 Continental is listed for 65 and in 1970 it had a Perkins 4 212 gas. Anything after that was diesel 203,212 and 236 cu. in. I would guess the 1855 has a 6 354 Perkins like the 1850? Very good engine. It sounds like your 285 needs some work. 6100 hours isn't a lot for a perkins. You should look into fixing your multi-power on the 165. When it works it is great. My 135 starts good in the cold. As long as I can get it to turn over fast enough, I can usually get it started. I'll never remember all your tractors. Dave

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Don-Wi

11-04-2006 20:23:01




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to 135 Fan, 11-04-2006 23:59:22  
Both the Masseys need some engine work, but they still run fairly strong. The 165 needs clutch work, brake work, 3 pt doesn't lift strong, and the MP is out. Only trouble is, it's our loader tractor and we need it every day. The 285 has had ether used on it quite a bit in the winter, we always tried to plug it in but some times we just didn't have enough time, or it was so cold it still needed it. It runs pretty strong yet, but 6,000 hours is quite a bit for any deisel that gets used in the winter around here.

The 1855 has a Waukesha 310 in it, the 1850 was the only Oliver to sport the Perkins. Once the White name was on the tin, they went back to the 384 in the 2-85 and 2-105.

I want to work on the 285 and 165 sometime, but right now it just isn't in the plans.

I did my grandpa's 1600, but now I've ogt other things going on, like part of a wedding to pay for, and a place to live...

Donovan from Wisconsin

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
old

11-03-2006 16:36:25




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to 135 Fan, 11-03-2006 15:43:32  
135, a MF165 can be either one and the guy doesn't tell us so I was just takeing an educated guess. Somes times thats all we can do when we answer some one on here because they don't give enough info to do any thing more



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
135 Fan

11-03-2006 18:04:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to old, 11-03-2006 16:36:25  
I agree old. I agree with you about the extension cord getting hot too. It would be nice if people would give all the relevant info, so we don't have to guess. I think in one of his earlier posts he said diesel. I think it's about the same technique anyway except you don't have to worry about an air leak on gas. Dave



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
old

11-03-2006 18:21:06




Report to Moderator
 Re: MF 165 - How to clean the fuel sediment bowl in reply to 135 Fan, 11-03-2006 18:04:03  
Ya some people don't think about what they ask and figure we can read minds. LOL I've seen way to many bits and pieces left out of questions here and then it can be fun to answer a person so you sort of have to take your best guess LOL. I also don't answer many people on this forum but once in a while I see one that fits all tractors so then I say something. MF/MH are a tractor I don't mess with much even though I have a 30 and a 44 MH

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy