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HELP STARTING A COLD MF 275

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SCHAP

11-01-2006 09:43:16




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ANYONE GOT ANY TIPS ON STARTING MY 275 4CYL PERKINS DIESEL
ON COLD MORNINGS? IT HAS NO GLOW PLUGS OR BLOCK HEATER. I LIVE IN WESTERN WASHINGTON AND LOTS OF THE WINTER ITS NOT TOO BAD.....BUT IN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA, WE GET SEVERAL NIGHTS IN THE HIGH TEENS AND LOW 20'S. THE OTHER MORNING IT REALLY CRANKED AWHILE AND PUFFED LOTS OF BLACK SMOKE BUT FIRED RIGHT UP. THE OLD GUY I BOUGHT IT FROM RECENTLY PASSED ON, AND HE SAID HE NEVER HAD ANY TROUBLES. BUT HE'S NOT AROUND TO ASK HOW HE DID IT. THANKS.

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Noel Chartier

11-11-2006 15:53:30




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 Re: HELP STARTING A COLD MF 275 in reply to SCHAP, 11-01-2006 09:43:16  
A little ether in the air intake works every time for me.



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riquetb

11-04-2006 10:02:13




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 Re: HELP STARTING A COLD MF 275 in reply to SCHAP, 11-01-2006 09:43:16  
Hello,
To heat old tractor engines on cold morning (I have a MF178), I usually use the internal heater fitted on the air input pipes (As I'm French, I don't know exactly technical words).
But to help heating on very cold days, I also use sometimes a hair dryer. I open air input rubber pipe just before the engine and "plug" the hair dryer output into it.
I wait for few minutes then switch starter on.
It normally starts well.
But you need to park tractor near a power socket.
Try it.
Regards.
Eric

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pbutler

11-03-2006 10:03:40




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 Re: HELP STARTING A COLD MF 275 in reply to SCHAP, 11-01-2006 09:43:16  
I took out one of the freeze plugs and screwed in an after market block heater-works great.



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mn.Chuck

11-02-2006 16:28:22




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 Re: HELP STARTING A COLD MF 275 in reply to SCHAP, 11-01-2006 09:43:16  
The 200 series did not have a pre-heater to the
disappointment of us dealers at the time. MF did
come out with a field installed kit but by the
time we knew many people were disappointed. They
are probably not avail but could be rigged up. I
have a sheet on this but may take a little time.
So a customer used to a 165 that would start any-
time and bought a 265 that was too bad. A block
heater is surely a good idea and a tiny spray of
starting fluid-both good ideas. Chuck

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Jerry/MT

11-01-2006 13:37:41




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 Re: HELP STARTING A COLD MF 275 in reply to SCHAP, 11-01-2006 09:43:16  
Get and owners manual and see if it has a cold starting aid or look at the intake manifold and see if it has a device screwed into the manifold and a small fuel tube and an electrical connection. If it does, thats a Thermostart unit. They burn out or the fuel line gets clogged. A replacement is about $20 and it'll take about a half hour to remove the old and replace it. To use, you activate it with the key (I have one on my Ford 4610 and it activates between the start and run positions.You hold it there for 15-20 seconds then attempt a start.) but I don't know how aa MF is wired.
If you don't have a Thermostart device, get a block heate rand put it on a timer to heat the block a couple of hours before you want to use it.
Where abouts in Western WA are you? I used to live in Graham, just South of Puyallup.

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Todd 24

11-01-2006 11:18:00




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 Re: HELP STARTING A COLD MF 275 in reply to SCHAP, 11-01-2006 09:43:16  
I think you'd be money ahead in the long run getting a block heater installed and plug it in for an hour or two before starting; just a whole lot easier on everything, including the starter.



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135 Fan

11-01-2006 10:06:28




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 Re: HELP STARTING A COLD MF 275 in reply to SCHAP, 11-01-2006 09:43:16  
Does it have thermo-start? It's a heater in the intake. Usually turn the key to the left to activate. If not, you can use a very small shot of ether starting fluid. Spray the ether in to the air cleaner while the engine is cranking if you can. Perkins engines can use ether but not with thermo-start. I had a welder with a Perkins that had the Arctic option on it. The thermo-start was taken off and a starting fluid solonoid installed along with an oil pan heater, a circulating heater and a battery warmer. I never needed to use starting fluid. It even started with gelled summer diesel once when I really needed it. It started and ran for about 30 seconds and then quit. I started it again and it ran for about a minute. It would only idle and the throttle did nothing. I started it a third time and it kept running. After about 10 minutes, I could finally get it to rev up to full throttle so I could use it. The other thing you could do would be to put some heat under it. Hope this helps. Dave

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