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Help starting MF35

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txasylum

10-02-2006 17:50:49




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My MF35 was running fine. I changed all oil, oil filters, and both fuel filters. Now I can't start it. I know you it is hard to start a diesel if it ran out of fuel, which is basically what happened when I changed the filters. What is the trick to get this started now?




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txasylum

10-06-2006 20:37:54




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to txasylum, 10-02-2006 17:50:49  
Thanks for all the help and advice. I got the tractor running today. What a pain.... LOL



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Barry_ID

10-04-2006 04:22:20




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to txasylum, 10-02-2006 17:50:49  
If you follow Big Dean"s instructions explicitely you should get "er bled and started. On my 65 I had to bleed the top of the filters first, then the injector. On the injector, just disconnect one line and crank until it starts. Then shut it down and reconnect that line. I"ve done this a few times...if one line doens"t do the trick, try another. Pay attention to the obvious, too, which can be overlooked in times of trouble. I"ve cranked and cranked while bleeding the tractor out in the field and forgotten to push the fuel shut-off knob in...

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txasylum

10-06-2006 07:13:48




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to Barry_ID, 10-04-2006 04:22:20  
Bill,

Thanks for the reply. I have been out of town and am now trying to catch up.

How do you bleed the filters? I believe the are full of diesel now. I have a leak on my injector pump at the linkage and now when I crank over and over, it is leaking. Also, I loosened the lines going into the injectors. When I crank over, diesel is coming out.

Is it possible that air is still in the system and causing it to not start?

Thanks

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Bill Brox

10-04-2006 14:32:37




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to Barry_ID, 10-04-2006 04:22:20  
On all the diesels I have been working on I had to bleed the primary filter first, then the secondary filter, then the pump. The operator manual tells what screw on the pump to bleed first and second and so forth.
That is if you have the operator manual.

My feeling in this is that if the engine is running and there is no problem, you stop the engine, and replace the primary and secondary fuel filter, and then it will not start. I have felt that the reason for this is that when both filterhousings are empty, or full of air, there is not enough feeding pressure on the injector pump and it will not start.
If you then start bleeding air at the injector pump sometimes it looks like it is clean fuel coming out, and it is, but it is still a lot of air in the fuel filters. If you had continued to pump the pre-fuel pump by hand for an eternity you would see that sooner or later a lot of air would come out of the fuel pump.

But, to fasten things up, I will recommend bleeding the primary fuel filter first and see that clean and bubble free fuel comes out. And when that happens, bleed a bit more, a bubble might be stuck and come out a little after. When you feel that this is it, a good tip is to tighten the bleeder screw while your friend operate the fuel pump lever for pumping, and not while sucking. You actually need to be 2 people to do an efficient bleeding on a MF 35 if you have the Perkins diesel engine, because the pump lever is on the other side of the tractor. Continue to the secondary filter and do the same as with the primary filter. The primary filter is closest to the steering wheel, and the secondary filter is closest to the injector pump.

Before bleeding, have you cleaned the glass bowl ?

After the secondary filter is done, proceed to the fuel pump.

And please notify us when the engine runs and everything is ok. We are all curious folks and wants to know the result.


Bill

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txasylum

10-06-2006 07:14:59




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to Bill Brox, 10-04-2006 14:32:37  
Bill,
Thanks for the reply. I have been out of town and am now trying to catch up.

How do you bleed the filters? I believe the are full of diesel now. I have a leak on my injector pump at the linkage and now when I crank over and over, it is leaking. Also, I loosened the lines going into the injectors. When I crank over, diesel is coming out.

Is it possible that air is still in the system and causing it to not start?

Thanks

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Big Dean

10-02-2006 18:43:02




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to txasylum, 10-02-2006 17:50:49  
This is a picture with instructions for bleeding the fuel system Hope it helps if you have questions email me



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txasylum

10-02-2006 19:08:00




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to Big Dean, 10-02-2006 18:43:02  
Thanks for the diagram. I tried what you said with the exception of bleeding the head. I did loosen the lines going into the injectors and all three of them are squirting diesel out as I turn the engine over. So I assume diesel is getting into the cylinders. Am I right?



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txasylum

10-02-2006 18:38:22




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to txasylum, 10-02-2006 17:50:49  
Update. It is getting diesel to the injectors. I loosened the lines going into the injectors and diesel squirted out as I turned it over.

So what would cause it not to start after changing the fuel filters?



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txasylum

10-02-2006 18:38:19




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to txasylum, 10-02-2006 17:50:49  
Update. It is getting diesel to the injectors. I loosened the lines going into the injectors and diesel squirted out as I turned it over.

So what would cause it not to start after changing the fuel filters?



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txasylum

10-02-2006 18:38:16




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 Re: Help starting MF35 in reply to txasylum, 10-02-2006 17:50:49  
Update. It is getting diesel to the injectors. I loosened the lines going into the injectors and diesel squirted out as I turned it over.

So what would cause it not to start after changing the fuel filters?



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