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MF 165 oil leak

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JAT

08-30-2006 07:00:13




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I recently bought a MF 165. I hadn't noticed any oil leaks before but the other day after I parked it there was a steady, fast drip of oil coming out a large hole about 8 inches behind the oil pan. I didn't have a light with me but I'm assuming this is where the clutch is. This hole has 4 threaded holes around it so it probably supposed to have a cover over it. Also the engine oil has been dropping fast.
Questions: 1. Rear engine seal gone? 2. Is the hole supposed to have a cover over it? 3. Is the oil going to hurt the clutch if I cover the hole, ignore the leak and just keep putting oil in as needed? 4. The engine is gas with a right-side exhaust. Does this mean it's a Perkins?

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mn.Chuck

08-30-2006 10:24:34




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 Re: MF 165 oil leak in reply to JAT, 08-30-2006 07:00:13  
Hi, Please delete my saying that it is a 212UA. I
read in haste and thought it said it was a 212.
Sorry, Yes it should say on the engine plate.
Chuck



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mn.Chuck

08-30-2006 09:56:28




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 Re: MF 165 oil leak in reply to JAT, 08-30-2006 07:00:13  
You have a Perkins 212UA gas. Yes you want to get
the hole covered for dirt etc reasons. The cover
needs to have a small hole in it(put a cotter in
the hole to keep it more closed but allow oil to
leak out rather than build up-yes it will get in
the clutch if it builds up. Is the oil dirty as
Eng oil or more clear. It is also likely to be the
front trans seal. If you split for rear engine I
would also put in the front trans seal. Easy but
more difficult if it has multipower. Does the prev
ious owner have the cover?? Chuck

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JAT

08-30-2006 12:58:04




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 Re: MF 165 oil leak in reply to mn.Chuck, 08-30-2006 09:56:28  
I don't have the phone number for the previous owner and it's probably quicker and easier to make a new cover for it than to make the drive to find the old one.
Thanks for the info.



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Bob N.Y.

08-30-2006 09:30:14




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 Re: MF 165 oil leak in reply to JAT, 08-30-2006 07:00:13  
The rear engine seal is a posibility. I think I remember Big Dean saying something about the oil pan gasket being a more likely source of the leak. The hole is supposed to have a cover. There should be a small hole in the bottom of the bell housing with a cotter pin in it. That is a drain hole. The cotter pin serves to keep the hole from plugging with grease and dirt. The oil will destroy your clutch discs if it can't escape. Both the Continental G-176 and The Perkins 212 gas engines have the exhaust on the right. The AD4-212 diesel was NOT used in the U.S.

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Bill Brox

08-30-2006 08:06:58




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 Re: MF 165 oil leak in reply to JAT, 08-30-2006 07:00:13  
Hi JAT.

The MF 165 came with two Perkins diesel engines, the first one being the AD4-203, which have the exhaust on the left side and the starter on the right side, and the AD4-212 engine which have the exhaust on the right side and the starter on the left side.
I have no idea about the gas engines, when it comes to left and right exhaust.

The hole under the clutch housing was covered from the factory with a plate, maybe 1/8" thick or in that neighborhood. If you seal the clutchhousing, the oil will start to build up inside, and the clutch will finaly starts slipping and be gone too.

To stop the leak, you will have to split the tractor and replace the rear crankshaft seal. As a temporary repair you can try to look for some stuff to pour into the engine oil.

But, you will need a new seal pretty soon anyway.


Bill

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